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Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by vanviegen »

mathstuf wrote: post #11
oever wrote: post #5

> However, you won’t be getting the advanced features like automation or other integration and collaboration features provided by GitHub. Codeberg is working on CI and you can request early access. I've found it to work well and fast. https://codeberg.org/Codeberg-CI

Is it just me or does this seem to only support Linux and leave all other platforms out to dry?

I'd guess Linux is the most important platform for most customers. Also, it's probably the easiest and least expensive platform to support. I'd be very surprised if they'd picked another platform to support in their initial release of this feature.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by jpe90 »

strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

I tried out self hosting on my $5/mo VPS and found it much easier than expected. https://jeskin.net/blog/self-hosting-git-with-stagit/

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by em-bee »

collegeburner wrote: post #9

i would have serious concerns about hosting in europe due to hate speech laws that are muddy and ripe for abuse. the site doesn't have a hate speech policy i can find, is anyone here informed on exactly what the ramifications of such laws might be?

i have serious concerns about hosting in the US because US companies often remove content or lock out or terminate their users/customers for unpredictable reasons. in europe at least i can read up on what the law is, and expect that as long as my content is lawful, it will not be taken down.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by pfix »

> Obsidian does not offer free syncing between devices and you will have to manually set up a method to sync your notes, either by using something like Dropbox, Google Drive, or Git.

Obsidian does not offer _free_ syncing, but it does offer it: https://obsidian.md/sync

It's not cheap though and it's not europe-based. But it's a way to support the development.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by capableweb »

strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

Worth noting as well, from the list of various hosting services, Codeberg is the only one explicitly for FOSS software and not for proprietary software. Sourcehut seems to be in the box of everything for running the service is FOSS but they would be OK with hosting non-FOSS software, whereas Codeberg isn't for hosting proprietary software at all.

From the FAQ (https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/faq/#is-it-allowed...):

> Is it allowed to host non-free software?

> Our mission is to support the creation and development of Free Software; therefore we only allow repos licensed under an OSI/FSF-approved license. For more details see Licensing article. However, we sometimes tolerate repositories that aren't perfectly licensed and focus on spreading awareness on the topic of improper FLOSS licensing and its issues.

> Can I host private (non-licensed) repositories?

> Codeberg is intended for free and open source content. [...]

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by giobox »

jpe90 wrote: post #22
strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

I tried out self hosting on my $5/mo VPS and found it much easier than expected. https://jeskin.net/blog/self-hosting-git-with-stagit/

Can't you just run gitlab or whatever else out of a container in 5 seconds nowadays? Map a single volume and you are likely done. Its not that it's hard to self host that I choose to use third party git services (its clearly not!), it's just that the benefits of self hosting a git repository are increasingly few unless you have strict security requirements etc etc, and the free options are so good now. Running self hosted git is trivial in 2022 if you really need to, with many one-line container deployment options to choose from.

> https://registry.hub.docker.com/r/gitlab/gitlab-ce/

While it might be fun to self-host, a 5 dollar a month fee to run it is also not price competitive with the free or paid individual tiers at github.com for a single user too. I'd probably only do this if the git repo was being hosted on my home LAN.

> https://github.com/pricing

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by pjmlp »

mathstuf wrote: post #11
oever wrote: post #5

> However, you won’t be getting the advanced features like automation or other integration and collaboration features provided by GitHub. Codeberg is working on CI and you can request early access. I've found it to work well and fast. https://codeberg.org/Codeberg-CI

Is it just me or does this seem to only support Linux and leave all other platforms out to dry?

In the event of things going nasty with export regulations, it appears we are left with FOSS UNIX clones, and ISO/ECMA based programming languages, or those independent from corporate stewardship.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by capableweb »

f1shy wrote: post #25

I cannot browse projects hosted there without registering? I am missing so something?

Seems to work perfectly fine for me when logged out?

https://codeberg.org/explore/repos works

https://codeberg.org/ditzes/ditzes works as well

What page exactly doesn't work for you?

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by bee_rider »

strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

I think we should emphasize that Sourcehut is just currently free while it is in alpha. Mr. DeVault been very upfront about the fact that he's planning to start charging eventually. From his FAQ,

https://man.sr.ht/billing-faq.md#why-should-i-pay-when-githu...

The point is to set up a responsible financial situation between himself and the users and avoid the bad incentive structures that "free" services have ("Free" until VC money runs out, at which point it is roll of the dice whether they'll be monetized through acquisition, or some annoying scheme).

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