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Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by RamblingCTO »

brabel wrote: post #65

Shame that they don't seem to support the European Self-Sovereign Identity Framework for registration: https://essif-lab.eu/ I am really hoping that this will take off and soon all Europeans will be able to prove they have the right to get services without having to reveal their full identity... and I think this is a great framework for registration to services like this as well.

This will probably be a corporate-circlejerc like GAIA-X again. The website is just bad at explaining what's going on. It reads like an academic paper and is not user friendly at all. Do you have any experience with that?

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by RamblingCTO »

Egoist wrote: post #55
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #2

Codeberg recently took down the repository for Wikiless project without any explanation to the project. It was only days after the project maintainer contacted them that they wrote something back about an IP complaint from Wikimedia foundation.

Context: https://orenom.fi

Thank you, that's actually very important information. So it wasn't taken down, it was just set to private:

> the repository has been made private (only contributors will be able to access the repo for now)

Huge difference and imho quite ok until things are clear.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by jszymborski »

medoc wrote: post #44
strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

There is also framagit: https://framagit.org/public/projects which is a Gitlab instance run by a French non-profit, Framasoft: https://framasoft.org/en/ I host my project there, no issues.

I have a lot of love for framasoft, but beware that they have limited resources and have in the past closed down or geofenced services I was relying on.

I think Codeberg's co-op style governance/funding makes a lot of sense w.r.t sustainability.

A reminder that Framasoft's a worthy cause to donate to if you are looking for causes to support!

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by NexRebular »

Blackthorn wrote: post #34
strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

I no longer trust bitbucket after they shut down their mercurial support. That was the thing that differentiated them from everyone else. Why even use them now?

I wonder if there even is public mercurial hosting available anymore. This git monoculture is starting to be a bit annoying.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by em-bee »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #38
em-bee wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i have serious concerns about hosting in the US because US companies often remove content or lock out or terminate their users/customers for unpredictable reasons. in europe at least i can read up on what the law is, and expect that as long as my content is lawful, it will not be taken down.

Another comment mentioned that they took down wikiless without warning or explaination, and then the explaination that eventually came later was still not great (complaint from wikimedia). It doesn't sound like they are so much better on this point.

right, things are not perfect, and people make mistakes, but that doesn't contradict my claim because it should still be possible to object to the takedown and take measures to get the host to reinstate the content if the IP claim was wrong. in the US, in the same situation there might not be a recourse.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by NeutralForest »

bee_rider wrote: post #30
strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

I think we should emphasize that Sourcehut is just currently free while it is in alpha. Mr. DeVault been very upfront about the fact that he's planning to start charging eventually. From his FAQ, https://man.sr.ht/billing-faq.md#why-should-i-pay-when-githu... The point is to set up a responsible financial situation between himself and the users and avoid the bad incentive structures that "free" services have ("Free"…

The guy very SourceHut is very nice and dedicated to the project, his blog is also interesting to understand the philosophy being SourceHut.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by StevePerkins »

Blackthorn wrote: post #34
strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

I no longer trust bitbucket after they shut down their mercurial support. That was the thing that differentiated them from everyone else. Why even use them now?

To be fair, hardly anyone ever used Bitbucket due to Mercurial support.

Some people probably used it because for awhile, pre-GitLab, it was the GitHub alternative with the most generous free tier for private repos.

However, the overwhelming majority of users probably use it because they're already in the Atlassian ecosystem due to JIRA.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by fragile_frogs »

pokstad wrote: post #48

There’s already a GitHub alternative from Europe: GitLab. The founders are Dutch and Ukrainian.

While the founders are from Europe, GitLab is a US company [1] and the SaaS offering is based in the US [2].

[1] https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2015/07/01/operating-as-gitlab...

[2] https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/engineering/infrastructure...

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by ChristianGeek »

beanaroo wrote: post #100
strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

Also proprietary and relatively new on the scene: https://www.jetbrains.com/space/

Has anyone tried this yet? It looks promising, especially with JetBrains behind it.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by endgame »

bee_rider wrote: post #30
strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

I think we should emphasize that Sourcehut is just currently free while it is in alpha. Mr. DeVault been very upfront about the fact that he's planning to start charging eventually. From his FAQ, https://man.sr.ht/billing-faq.md#why-should-i-pay-when-githu... The point is to set up a responsible financial situation between himself and the users and avoid the bad incentive structures that "free" services have ("Free"…

I've been paying for years, because I agree with these principles. It's a good service.
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