NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jun 28, 2016, 2:30 PM UTC

jklinger410 wrote: post #117

datamoshr wrote: post #8

The thing that bothers me most about this as a European is; I have zero say in this, in the US you can strike out against surveillance, you can write to senators, protest against terrible legislation. Actually have a voice, however faint it is. Whereas I don't get a say but the exact same treatment from your country. The Five Eyes have made me paranoid and the only escape seems to be downgrading your phone to a brick…

>Whereas I don't get a say but the exact same treatment from your country. The NSA works with the 5 eyes to gather data on you. If you want to stop the NSA from spying on you, vote in your democratic country to remove yourselves from our intelligence agreements. It doesn't necessarily mean the NSA won't spy on you, but it does mean it will be technically illegal for them to do so, so they probably won't do it unless…

Post by throwanem » Tue, Jun 28, 2016, 2:32 PM UTC

exabrial wrote: post #57

Okay I hate to be the one to break the news to everybody here, but if you have a GSM phone this is quite trivial to do. The NSA hasn't done anything groundbreaking here, except maybe a Google search.

Post by ensignavenger » Tue, Jun 28, 2016, 2:37 PM UTC

blockross wrote: post #29

coroutines wrote: post #22

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I was happy to see the disgust people had for the CIA black sites operated in other countries when that came to light during the Bush presidency. Not because of the torture, but because people here expected alleged terrorists to have the same rights as detained American citizens. I feel this is important to note, because we have a large population of young voters who I feel have concern for everyone - not just the US…

unfortunately you're part of a minority. The mere fact that the election will happen between Clinton and Trump makes me think that mass surveillance and lack of respect for other countries are going to continue and probably worsen. Clinton: http://time.com/4150694/hillary-clinton-calls-for-more-surve... Trump (not that it's really necessary): http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/26167...

Post by nan0 » Tue, Jun 28, 2016, 2:40 PM UTC

heartsucker wrote: post #127

nan0 wrote: post #120

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I don't think we used the same barbaric methods. Terrorists have the intention of killing any nearby civilian , even if they are non government or military most of the time they play their attacks.

(warning: anecdote) I knew a guy who joined the US Marines and talked about how he wanted to "shoot towel heads." I don't believe that the US armed forces are purely virtuous at the top, bottom, or in between levels. There likely is a non-zero number of service men/women who get some sort of sick joy out of murdering non-Americans.

Post by tmaly » Tue, Jun 28, 2016, 2:50 PM UTC