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NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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This shows clearly that Putin is a dictator, that China is communist and that the USA spys the entire world to protect its citizens freedom. /s

The "communist country" has a capitalist economy.

The "free country" has total electronic surveillance.

The "federation" is run like an empire in a dictator-like fashion.

And north korea, the "democratic republic", is the most oppressive regime in the world.

What a world we live in.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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This shows clearly that Putin is a dictator, that China is communist and that the USA spys the entire world to protect its citizens freedom. /s

Ok, Putin is a dictator (duh). How is that ANY worse in ANY way than what America has? Seriously, people, get over your ridiculous democracy addiction, it's killing more people annually than all other drugs combined.

Westerners are so brainwashed, you think your shit smells better than everyone else's. It doesn't. It's worse in many respects. And even if it IS better in some respects, nobody wants your shit pushed down their throat. If people like something they see, they're clever enough (AND enabled enough) to bring about the desired change in their own countries. Nobody needs you to save the world! Go solve your own problems.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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post #4
post #3

This shows clearly that Putin is a dictator, that China is communist and that the USA spys the entire world to protect its citizens freedom. /s

The "communist country" has a capitalist economy. The "free country" has total electronic surveillance. The "federation" is run like an empire in a dictator-like fashion. And north korea, the "democratic republic", is the most oppressive regime in the world. What a world we live in.

Seems like labels are not always telling the truth. It's a bit like in the supermarket, if something is called 'Premium' it's often nothing like that.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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The thing that bothers me most about this as a European is; I have zero say in this, in the US you can strike out against surveillance, you can write to senators, protest against terrible legislation. Actually have a voice, however faint it is. Whereas I don't get a say but the exact same treatment from your country. The Five Eyes have made me paranoid and the only escape seems to be downgrading your phone to a brick and carrying it in a Faraday cage. We may as well just go back to plain old telephones.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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The thing that bothers me most about this as a European is; I have zero say in this, in the US you can strike out against surveillance, you can write to senators, protest against terrible legislation. Actually have a voice, however faint it is. Whereas I don't get a say but the exact same treatment from your country. The Five Eyes have made me paranoid and the only escape seems to be downgrading your phone to a brick…

What's the difference really between a "faint voice" and no voice at all? What's the point of wasting breath if you get no influence?

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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The thing that bothers me most about this as a European is; I have zero say in this, in the US you can strike out against surveillance, you can write to senators, protest against terrible legislation. Actually have a voice, however faint it is. Whereas I don't get a say but the exact same treatment from your country. The Five Eyes have made me paranoid and the only escape seems to be downgrading your phone to a brick…

What's the difference really between a "faint voice" and no voice at all? What's the point of wasting breath if you get no influence?

Lots of faint voices, put together, can actually make quite a noise.
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