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NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#71

So now they can detect the location of the "target" and send a drone to kill them from the convenience of their office, before going on lunch break. This really sickens me. They are inferring so much and therefore many innocent people are and will suffer. To me this system is pure evil however much the nsa try to sugar coat or spin it. Who gave them the right to do this, to track people around the world and in many c…

The people they kill are those who have killed others. Quit pretending they are innocents just minding their own business.

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#72
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel the same about the KGB and China's spy agencies. How come I have no say in how they operate?

KGB doesn't exist for more than 25 years. Checking your facts would be a first step, i guess.

That's what they want you to think!

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#73

The thing that bothers me most about this as a European is; I have zero say in this, in the US you can strike out against surveillance, you can write to senators, protest against terrible legislation. Actually have a voice, however faint it is. Whereas I don't get a say but the exact same treatment from your country. The Five Eyes have made me paranoid and the only escape seems to be downgrading your phone to a brick…

I feel the same about the KGB and China's spy agencies. How come I have no say in how they operate?

The KGB and spy agencies of old used to need to assign agents to sit outside your house to watch you.

The NSA is a different breed of agency, who can now record whatever everyone reads, hears or says and keep these records almost forever.

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#74

they are tracking our every single movement, and aspire to track our every single thought we have a duty to resist this totalitarianism by any means possible or necessary; fascism is here, and free men can't delude themselves with hoping for gradual change to the contrary any further.

How many government employees does it take to track and analyze my every movement?

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#75
post #47

Not long ago you could buy SIM cards from kioskos, corner stores, etc. This is becoming increasingly rare, even in places with otherwise poor infrastructure. The shift was rapid but noticeable.

I've picked them up from Walmart. You can register them via Tor.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#77

How would America respond if it found out that say the UK is tracking cellphones worldwide, except for British subjects of course, but including all Americans on American soil?

our NSA would negotiate to exchange datasets with you.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#78

The thing that bothers me most about this as a European is; I have zero say in this, in the US you can strike out against surveillance, you can write to senators, protest against terrible legislation. Actually have a voice, however faint it is. Whereas I don't get a say but the exact same treatment from your country. The Five Eyes have made me paranoid and the only escape seems to be downgrading your phone to a brick…

I was happy to see the disgust people had for the CIA black sites operated in other countries when that came to light during the Bush presidency. Not because of the torture, but because people here expected alleged terrorists to have the same rights as detained American citizens. I feel this is important to note, because we have a large population of young voters who I feel have concern for everyone - not just the US…

I think it's age more than generational. Every generation is idealistic in youth. By the time you've lived 50 or 60 years you see that you cannot wish the world to be the way you want it to be, and things are more complicated than they seemed when you were 22.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was happy to see the disgust people had for the CIA black sites operated in other countries when that came to light during the Bush presidency. Not because of the torture, but because people here expected alleged terrorists to have the same rights as detained American citizens. I feel this is important to note, because we have a large population of young voters who I feel have concern for everyone - not just the US…

I think it's age more than generational. Every generation is idealistic in youth. By the time you've lived 50 or 60 years you see that you cannot wish the world to be the way you want it to be, and things are more complicated than they seemed when you were 22.

Once you've reached 50 or 60, you don't want to risk your house price, your stock value, or that job that you worked for a quarter of a century getting up to. With little working time left, you're not likely to recover. So you rationalize your self-interest with generalized vagaries when what you really want is for things to stay how they are for your own safety.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was happy to see the disgust people had for the CIA black sites operated in other countries when that came to light during the Bush presidency. Not because of the torture, but because people here expected alleged terrorists to have the same rights as detained American citizens. I feel this is important to note, because we have a large population of young voters who I feel have concern for everyone - not just the US…

Remember that outrage over the Patriot act abuses? Obama 2008 platform promised to restore the Constitution: > We reject the use of national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. We reject the tracking of citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. We reject torture. We reject sweeping claims of "inherent" presidential power. We will revisit the Patriot Act and overturn…

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