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Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Post by greyface- »

Msw242 wrote: post #108
chki wrote: post #71

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I'm sorry if this is inappropriate but what health reasons prevent you from getting vaccinated?

There are allergies to vaccines (not to the dose, but to everything else that is in the concoction that enables it to work). Also, immunocompromised people often can't take vaccines. Usually you can get a doctor's note explaining this, and you can participate in daily life normally (like going to school or college, which rightfully require vaccinations). I don't know if policy around the COVID vaccine is different...…

> There are allergies to vaccines (not to the dose, but to everything else that is in the concoction that enables it to work).

There are multiple vaccine formulations available, and they largely do not overlap in terms of potential allergy triggers. If you're allergic to a component of the mRNA vaccines, that does not preclude you from taking an adenovirus vaccine, or vice versa. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommend...

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Post by brainphreeze »

tootie wrote: post #87
yosito wrote: post #28

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> Fucking Republicans As a vaccinated, boosted republican, this attitude isn't helping. Yeah, there are a bunch of idiotic republican politicians out there. But there are also a lot of idiotic democrat politicians out there who aren't making COVID policy decisions based on science and evidence, but based on their ideological side: outdoor mask mandates, travel bans, blocking people's access to their own private prope…

That's a false equivalency. Republicans have been far, far worse. They have been anti-science across the board on all kinds of policy. Donald Trump is absolute low point in American history. The guy who said vaccines cause autism, pushed unproven and dangerous treatments, pressured scientists to change their recommendations, called climate change a hoax, wanted to nuke a hurricane and rake a forest. He owns the party…

Some of the things you've said are just flat out incorrect. It's blatantly obvious you're parroting CNN and Late Show hacks.

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Post by pokstad »

warning26 wrote: post #80
hunterb123 wrote: post #68

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You can enable "Show Dead" in your user prefs if you want to see flagged comments. Spoiler alert: they're all conspiracy theorizing about how this _proves_ that the entire pandemic is all a part of Pfizer's master plan for making money.

Not what I read. A bunch of the flagged posts are people doubting the efficacy.

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Post by JohnTHaller »

This will be useful for the hundreds of thousands of organ transplant recipients like my Dad. The two dose vaccines generally have no effect. Didn't with him or any of the other patients under his doctor's care. Luckily, he was part of the ~40% where the 3rd dose had some effect. Nowhere near healthy folks but at least some. For the other 60%, a drug like this will be life-saving.

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Post by jmarbach »

hamburglar wrote: post #114
jmarbach wrote: post #14

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You are completely wrong -- totally warped by the narrative. Look at the Pfizer press release, Nov 9, 2020 - the first sentence: "Vaccine candidate was found to be more than 90% effective in preventing COVID-19 in participants without evidence of prior SARS-CoV-2 infection in the first interim efficacy analysis" https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta...

You seem very, very attached to a conclusion that isn’t supported by your own information. Are you really sure you haven’t been “warped by a narrative?”

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Post by XorNot »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #93
javagram wrote: post #55

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Actually, political affiliation is the strongest demographic predictor for Covid-19 vaccine refusal. Check the actual stats. Unfortunately a lot of GOP leaning media sources including top rated Fox News opinion hosts have been spreading FUD about the vaccine for a year. People listen to their trusted news hosts and media sources…

fox news is the most popular TV news and has like 1-2 million daily viewers. I could be wrong but I don’t think people are going by what they see on TV.

Fox News daily or hourly viewer count is not the same 2.5 million people (https://www.statista.com/statistics/373814/cable-news-networ...) consistently.

https://www.reuters.com/article/industry-us-news-idUSTRE68D0... notes that in general the average American spends about 60 minutes a day getting news from TV, radio or newspapers and only 9% report they exclusively get news online.

The major networks have a huge impact on the overall media narrative, and Fox News is the biggest.

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Post by javagram »

vidoc wrote: post #77
javagram wrote: post #57

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Note however that if you read farther down it does say “vaccine efficacy of 100% (95% confidence interval [CI, 87.5, 100.0]).” Also that press release is not by any possible definition from “early days” nor is it issued by Dr Fauci.

To be clear, I was just merely trying to track back where this '100%' claim was coming from as I also didn't remember such a bold claim being ever made, let alone by Fauci. Now, I invite you to make google searches with a date range and you will see that such studies claiming 100% efficacy on the product on kids started to appear in the early days actually: https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta…

Makes sense and good point of that original press release from March 31.

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Post by vidoc »

jjulius wrote: post #62
vidoc wrote: post #43

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> They never claimed it stopped infection True, but they sure as hell implied it did. For example, this fact check appeared in the search container of google early on: note the use of the double negative in the VERDICT. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-transmission/fa...

>Scientists are not yet sure of how the vaccine affects transmission – and this is currently undergoing research. I don't know how much clearer they can get with that next sentence.

(replying to your last message)

If you read my initial message one more time, you may notice that I mentionned a google serach container. I'm not certain it is the appropriate term but basically, you can ask a question to google and it will select an authoritative answer from a trusted source (Reuters, AP, etc).

Back in the early day of the vaccine, if you were to ask google whether the vaccine prevents the transmission of the disease, you'd get this: "here is no conclusive evidence to claim COVID-19 vaccines do not prevent people spreading the disease." at the top of the index. You could click to have more context, but I hope you are now getting the point.

Let's just not be in denial that misinformation exists on both sides.

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