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Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Post by chki »

johnisgood wrote: post #53
bhaak wrote: post #46

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I'm not sure the taxpayers will pay for that if you are unvaccinated. This pill is for "high-risk patients who took the antiviral within three days of symptom onset". The vaccination even seems to be a bit more effective than this pill?

But I am not vaccinated for health reasons. When are we going to start differentiating? Were I not a freelancer, I would have lost my job because I am not vaccinated, for health reasons. It is a pretty shitty thing to do to people.

I'm sorry if this is inappropriate but what health reasons prevent you from getting vaccinated?

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Post by btmiller »

tamaharbor wrote: post #64
victor106 wrote: post #58

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I identify myself as an independent. I have voted for both republicans and democrats. But it’s undeniable that there are large numbers of republicans that are unvaccinated. See the below two links https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/import... https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828...

And basically calling anyone “deplorable” for not taking the vaccine isn’t going to work this time either.

Realities aside, this is why a therapeutic might be the best way out of the pandemic.

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Post by solarkraft »

johnisgood wrote: post #53
bhaak wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure the taxpayers will pay for that if you are unvaccinated. This pill is for "high-risk patients who took the antiviral within three days of symptom onset". The vaccination even seems to be a bit more effective than this pill?

But I am not vaccinated for health reasons. When are we going to start differentiating? Were I not a freelancer, I would have lost my job because I am not vaccinated, for health reasons. It is a pretty shitty thing to do to people.

There's always an exception for people who can't be vaccinated. They're a big reason everyone else needs to be vaccinated, after all.

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Post by JanSt »

thisiscorrect wrote: post #69

It will be interesting to see if this pill could be used as prophylaxis too, instead of only after the onset of symptoms. Might help with the need to recognize symptoms fairly early on.

$500-700 per 5 day course and very limited supply (<100m courses in 2022 planned)

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

desine wrote: post #52
jiggawatts wrote: post #45

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>Good luck! I look forward to your references to peer-reviewed, reproduced, double-blind studies upending decades of well established medical science. Why is my burden of proof higher than yours? I at least linked one study in my sibling comment. I haven't seen that from anyone, studying anything, in years. Around 2018 there were actually a ton of articles and discussions right here on HN about the reproducibility pr…

Oh no don't try to throw in "reproducibility crisis" here. The fact that some studies in some areas are hard to reproduce (which is not news to anyone) does not suddenly mean that we should go back to cheap armchair philosophy as the main source of "knowledge". This is the equivalent of saying that the fossil record is slightly incomplete therefore Christian creationism.

"Science" in general is one of those things that you can safely rally behind, because there is nothing more accurate by definition.

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Post by vidoc »

javagram wrote: post #57
vidoc wrote: post #54

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At some point there was some PR about 100% effectiveness of the product on kids, according to, the guys who actually manufacture the product :) https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta...

Note however that if you read farther down it does say “vaccine efficacy of 100% (95% confidence interval [CI, 87.5, 100.0]).” Also that press release is not by any possible definition from “early days” nor is it issued by Dr Fauci.

To be clear, I was just merely trying to track back where this '100%' claim was coming from as I also didn't remember such a bold claim being ever made, let alone by Fauci.

Now, I invite you to make google searches with a date range and you will see that such studies claiming 100% efficacy on the product on kids started to appear in the early days actually:

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta...

Since 100% is a pretty awesome figure, my theory is that there must have been quite a bit of press coverage at the time and I have no doubt a lot of people got confused.

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Post by cltby »

javagram wrote: post #55
_-david-_ wrote: post #37

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There are a large number of blacks and young people who are not vaccinated. This is a bipartisan thing.

Actually, political affiliation is the strongest demographic predictor for Covid-19 vaccine refusal. Check the actual stats. Unfortunately a lot of GOP leaning media sources including top rated Fox News opinion hosts have been spreading FUD about the vaccine for a year. People listen to their trusted news hosts and media sources…

> Check the actual stats

60 % of Republicans have received at least one dose [1], but only 51 % of blacks have done the same [2].

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/17/counties-vot...

[2] https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-...

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Post by warning26 »

hunterb123 wrote: post #68

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Spoiler alert: they're all conspiracy theorizing about how this _proves_ that the entire pandemic is all a part of Pfizer's master plan for making money.

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