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Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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I'd argue that if you lack the self awareness to see how unhealthy you are, impart your bad habits onto your kids, and raise them till adulthood as if nothing's wrong, you are very stupid. Whether you can implement some function on a computer every couple months for $150k and free food doesn't change that.

A. I struggle to see the necessity or practicality of arguing that fat people are stupid. If you think they are, fine. Now how do you solve that problem? When has calling a large group of people stupid ever solved a major crisis, in public health, or otherwise? B. It's not necessarily a self-awareness issue. Many people know that they lead unhealthy lifestyles, but are unable to make long-term changes to their health…

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> 300lbs...it didn't take much effort to get to the 150/160 Uh, holy crap. Good job. How did you do it? What are some lunch ideas from your parents for my kids? Serious question lol. Since tree nuts and things aren't allowed I find nearly all the options in the "kids lunches" section of the store are all carb/sugar heavy, everything from the yogurts -> granola bars -> fruit. About the fattiest/healthiest thing I can…

I grew up in rural Scotland. Mum got up at 5am and made herself coffee and two, stilton, cucumber and tomato ham sandwich for my sister and I. No pudding, maaaaaayyybbbeee we'd get carrots and broccoli with mayo as a side if we were lucky. We got on the bus at 7am. Amazingly I still got fat because I was sedentary.

> coffee and two, stilton, cucumber and tomato ham sandwich

To me that actually sounds like a fucking delicious lunch, were I to pack that for myself lol.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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My mother was the same. Any treat she made had half sugar half salt, no cereal if sugar was in the first 3 ingredients, and would rarely buy candy. I went on to work in a bulk candy store, and usually have some bag of candy nearby.

What was her take on halloween?

Oh we still went out trick-or-treating. We weren't allowed to pig out on candy afterwards, just a few pieces a day.

When we did start giving out candy it was still your average small chocolate bars, not granola or anything.

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Yes, that review also cites 94 references and (the core of the reference is 3 tables that reviews existing literature anyway) and was published in MDPI's peer-reviewed open access journal Nutrients. Every other publication I listed was also peer-reviewed and can be read in full and is also full of citations. That's sort of the point of having scientific literature. But sure, since he's "highly respected" this Dr Greg…

Your passion for animal-based products is truly impressive! Have a good one!

The passion is actually for the application of the scientific method in a field that is simply rife with misinformation and ideologues, but thanks for casting aspersions. I can assure you that you haven't made a very strong intellectual argument for your case though.

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He'd rather pay his own money for a sugary breakfast at school? Or do they provide it for free?

Neither. He'd rather have the school sugary breakfast than to eat at home. The school will not refuse him (or any child) food. So they'll send a bill home that we now owe them money for the breakfast. I have repeatedly asked and responded to them to deny him breakfast at school, which... did not go over well and caused some other issues. So he eats sugar at school, because he won't eat at home, and I'm required to pa…

Thanks, this is something I don't have to deal with for a few more years, but I'm starting to have to think about it. That's a bit insane that the school is refusing to restrict your kid's access to sugary food.

Then again, thinking back, we all drank chocolate milk in school, since you needed something to cover the awful taste of the underlying milk, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

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I'd argue that if you lack the self awareness to see how unhealthy you are, impart your bad habits onto your kids, and raise them till adulthood as if nothing's wrong, you are very stupid. Whether you can implement some function on a computer every couple months for $150k and free food doesn't change that.

A. I struggle to see the necessity or practicality of arguing that fat people are stupid. If you think they are, fine. Now how do you solve that problem? When has calling a large group of people stupid ever solved a major crisis, in public health, or otherwise? B. It's not necessarily a self-awareness issue. Many people know that they lead unhealthy lifestyles, but are unable to make long-term changes to their health…

Why would you want to raise an unhealthy child? That seems very stupid. It's a huge investment.

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One thing I have been working on recently is cooking, especially from scratch and attempting to keep it healthy. One big thing I have noticed is that a lot of food (once cooked) has a very short shelf life (usually days), and if you have something with few ingredients, it requires quality ingredients. For prepackaged/premade foods, one would want food to stay good for longer than days once cooked/made, so it can be t…

It's also a culture thing. In Japan every supermarket and convenience store sells a lot of high quality fresh food (sushi, onigiri, a lot of different bento) that is meant for same day consumption. This only works because a large part of the population actually buys that kind of food for the same day. The shelfs are mostly empty in the evening. I went home empty handed quite a few times when waiting for the reduced prices one hour before shops close.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Take a whole package of bacon, put it on a cookie sheet. Bake 15 minutes in the oven at 350 degrees to your liking. Remove, Drain/cool. Place bacon in freezer. Take eggs. Boil in water. Place in refrigerator. Voila, you now have bacon and eggs in the morning for multiple days with zero effort. Another easy one - McDonald’s style Egg McMuffin: You’ve got your frozen English muffins because you’re lazy and don’t want t…

Reheated boiled eggs? Wtf...

I didn't say reheated hard boiled eggs. You just keep it in the fridge and eat it cold.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Reheated bacon and eggs probably tastes awful. I hate cooking bacon, especially in the morning, because the smell sticks to my clothes and my hair.

> Reheated bacon and eggs probably tastes awful. No more "awful" than a McDonald's McMuffin. Since that's literally what they do. Bacon surprisly reheats in the microwave well. Its better fresh. With that being said, I can feel the oil and grease so I'd personally prefer not to eat bacon every morning. Eggs taste fine cold, so I personally go with the boiled (but currently cold) egg. ---------- At minimum, something…

It's important to recognize the serving size of these cereals, as you pointed out. CTC and Special K Oats are comparable (12 and 11G of sugar), but Special K Oats is a sugary cereal. It is not original, plain Special K. It's not really healthier than Cookie Crisp despite the "healthy" branding.

Unsweetened/barely sweetened cereals like plain Special K and Rice Krispies are much better for you than CTC or equivalents.

Also, just about nobody eats one single serving of any of these cereals, either. Probably multiply by 2 for a typical person. They have basically no protein or fat so they don't fill you up. 1.33 grams of protein per cup for Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Breakfast cereals don't make you feel full for a long time.

Obviously bacon isn't necessarily something to consume a lot of. You could substitute a lot of other similarly easy to consume proteins.

Let's go with another easy one: plain greek yogurt. Per 150G container, it's got 80 calories, 6g carbs, and 15g of protein. It's got exactly the same amount of sugar as 1 1/4 cups of unsugared cereal like Rice Krispies (before adding milk), while giving you 15x more protein. It's going to keep you full a lot longer than that bowl of cereal. As a bonus, yogurt is even easier to prepare than cereal.

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Cooking techniques from tropical areas where food spoil quickly are useful here. It's one of the big reasons that spice is used in Indian cooking for example - historically not for flavour in particular but because food spoils extremely quickly (as in within a day or two) if not spiced. If the palette suits you, it's something I'd suggest looking into. We prepare foods on the weekend (working parents) and they stay f…

I would be very interested in it. If you don't mind me asking, do you have any resources you would recommend?

I learned a few basic templates from my wife. I don't have specific books or sites to recommend, but a general "approach" that you can use when looking at various resources (online or in books).

There are two or three templates that you can use with different base components to achieve a wide variety of dishes without a lot of memorization.

For example, a basic north-indian vegetable dish template I use is simple. First, chop an appropriate veggie (green beans, potatoes, beets, cauliflower, etc.). Heat cooking oil in pan until it's hot enough that mustard seeds start popping when you add them. Add a handful of mustard seeds and while they're still popping (within 5 seconds or so), add the veggies. Dry-cook that until veggies are cooked to taste, add red chilli powder, optionally some mustard powder, and salt to taste.

That template basically gives you half a dozen dishes that taste very different depending on the vegetable.

Likewise, there are simple templates for dals - typically you prepare an onion-and-spice paste by heating a small bit of cloves/cardamom in oil, reducing the onions down to a post-caramel paste, spice that with cumin and coriander and red chilli powder during the reduction, and add some tomato chunks towards the end. Then take the spice-onion paste + semi-cooked tomato chunks and add that to water and dal and cook in a pressure cooker (or regular pot if you're willing to soak the dal overnight prior to soften them).

There's a similar approach with an onion-base curry paste for meats and hardboild egg curries.

I didn't learn from books myself - mostly experimentation and getting the hang of a couple of basic templates which I started experimenting with. Personally it's more enjoyable that way.

But whatever resource you use, keep in mind that you can have a _very_ free hand in experimentation, substitution, and alteration. There is no orthodoxy and Indian cooking varies from area to area, village to village in specific choices of ingredients and spice mixtures.

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