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Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by cirrus-clouds »

For some global context, this article from 2015 shows sugar consumption across the globe. The data comes from market research company Euromonitor:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/05/where...

Countries with high sugar consumption levels include the US, Germany, Netherlands, Ireland, Australia, Belgium and the UK.

A more recently published report (some of which uses 2008 data) looks at the consumption of "ultra-processed" foods in 19 countries in Europe. "Ultra-processed" refers to food made in a factory with industrial ingredients and additives invented by food technologists: salty snacks, sugary cereals, industrially-made bread, desserts, ready-meals, reconstituted meats, and sweetened soft drinks

The top European countries for consuming "ultra-processed" foods are: UK, Germany, Ireland and Belgium:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/02/ultra-proces...

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by emptyfile »

dangus wrote: post #25
flareback wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love the idea of having bacon and eggs for breakfast in the morning. The reality is though that bacon and eggs take time and effort while pouring a bowl of cereal is quick and easy.

Take a whole package of bacon, put it on a cookie sheet. Bake 15 minutes in the oven at 350 degrees to your liking. Remove, Drain/cool. Place bacon in freezer. Take eggs. Boil in water. Place in refrigerator. Voila, you now have bacon and eggs in the morning for multiple days with zero effort. Another easy one - McDonald’s style Egg McMuffin: You’ve got your frozen English muffins because you’re lazy and don’t want t…

Reheated boiled eggs? Wtf...

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by KIFulgore »

will_brown wrote: post #42
otabdeveloper2 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure that the idea that cholesterol causes heart attacks is fake news.

Correct dietary cholesterol is unrelated to high cholesterol in people. It’s a myth invented by...the sugar industry.

I've read that lean, cholesterol-laden meats like shrimp, oysters, and liver do not raise cholesterol, but meats high in saturated fat will (ie, butter and ribeye steak).

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by hedora »

testvox wrote: post #38
will_brown wrote: post #26

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I may be wrong but I think many milks add sucrose. The other thing is if you don’t buy organic milk then your milk is also loaded with the antibiotics that we give to dairy cows which attaches to the fat in the milk. So a good rule is if you go organic get whole milk (because it is a good source of fat) but if you buy regular milk get skim (to avoid some of the antibiotics).

I haven't seen this personally, but people should know how modern milk is made. First all the parts are separated (milk proteins, fat, lactose) then reconstituted in different proportions for each type of milk. I've noticed that low fat milk generally has the same caloric content as high fat milk, they just add in more lactose in place of the missing fat (I presume to ensure the milk doesn't taste gross and watery).

They might be skimming proteins for energy bars, whey supplements and the like.

We spring for the non-homogenized minimally processed stuff, and the skim doesn’t taste gross and watery (we usually buy whole milk fwiw).

I assume it doesn’t go through the oil-refinery style processing you speak of.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by undersuit »

voidpointercast wrote: post #40
mikestew wrote: post #12

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Unpopular opinion because it’s a tired, facile one. Oh, look, someone else watched the opening scene to Idiocracy , too. Let us look down on others together with our common trope! Problem is, it doesn’t really answer any questions or produce any useful new models. It was good for a laugh ten years ago, though. Here’s something that’ll bake your noodle: what if you’re not as clever as you think you are, and due to the…

>Here’s something that’ll bake your noodle: what if you’re not as clever as you think you are, and due to the DunkinDonuts-Keurig effect, you don’t know you’re one of the stupid ones? This is actually something I'm constantly preoccupied with. I've assumed the "Assume you're one of the stupid ones until proven otherwise" position. That said, if I had some objective statement that I was somehow below average that woul…

Below average in what? Nick from gradeschool was the fastest runner in my class, I could never catch him. He was also a very good wrestler for his weight class, I heard he won his highschool division in Las Vegas. Nick had dyslexia, I didn't know that at the time, but I was quite smug that I could read better than Nick.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by cletus »

I wonder if we're approaching the point of recognizing sugar addiction as a real thing.

Just watch a number of children and you'll see, even from a young age, a wide variety of reactions to sugar.

For example, one I cna think of has always (and continues to be) "sensible" with sugar. Like if she has a soda, she'll stop when she's had enough. If there are chocolates there she'll have one or two.

One of her sisters just can't help herself. She literally can't stop eating any chocolates that are available. If she gets a soda, she'll literally inhale it and then try and drink her sisters' sodas.

Having seen this from such a young age I can't help but think that there's just luck involved here as in some people have a genetic predisposition to what I can only call sugar addiction.

What probably mitigated this in the past was that foods were lower sugar and sugary food and drinks were less available to many people. Like I'm just comparing what I had in the house growing up compared to what I see in pantries now.

But yes, cereal is pretty much universally terrible but it is convenient.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by TACIXAT »

chongli wrote: post #54
otabdeveloper2 wrote: post #30

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I'm pretty sure that the idea that cholesterol causes heart attacks is fake news.

Yeah. The problem with bacon is the nitrites, not the cholesterol.

Yea, I'm celiac and sodium nitrite is one of the foods I cut out. Might not affect everyone but it definitely messes with me. The uncured bacon products usually have celery powder which also contains sodium nitrite. Plain pork belly is the way to go.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by dragontamer »

nzb wrote: post #52
dangus wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Take a whole package of bacon, put it on a cookie sheet. Bake 15 minutes in the oven at 350 degrees to your liking. Remove, Drain/cool. Place bacon in freezer. Take eggs. Boil in water. Place in refrigerator. Voila, you now have bacon and eggs in the morning for multiple days with zero effort. Another easy one - McDonald’s style Egg McMuffin: You’ve got your frozen English muffins because you’re lazy and don’t want t…

Reheated bacon and eggs probably tastes awful. I hate cooking bacon, especially in the morning, because the smell sticks to my clothes and my hair.

> Reheated bacon and eggs probably tastes awful.

No more "awful" than a McDonald's McMuffin. Since that's literally what they do.

Bacon surprisly reheats in the microwave well. Its better fresh. With that being said, I can feel the oil and grease so I'd personally prefer not to eat bacon every morning.

Eggs taste fine cold, so I personally go with the boiled (but currently cold) egg.

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At minimum, something as greasy as bacon gives me pimples if I eat it every day. I can't imagine bacon each morning is healthier than even Cinnamon Toast Crunch (which has less sugar than most people realize...)

http://smartlabel.kelloggs.com/Product/Index/00038000787225

https://www.crazysquares.com/products/cinnamon-toast-crunch/...

Cinnamon Toast Crunch has 9g of Sugar. Special K Oats and Honey has 11g. Granted, Special K has a bigger serving size (31g vs 42g), but the sugar content is actually comparable between the two.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by lhl »

z_open wrote: post #20
will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

You want them to get a heart attack instead? Lots of cultures have good breakfast that don't rely on sugar or cholesterol. Look to the Mediterranean/Middle East/Central Asia/Far East.

Dietary cholesterol consumption has almost no direct relationship with serum cholesterol and in fact has been removed from dietary guidelines. [1]

Also, "A landmark systematic review and meta-analysis of observational studies showed no association between saturated fat consumption and (1) all-cause mortality, (2) coronary heart disease (CHD), (3) CHD mortality, (4) ischaemic stroke or (5) type 2 diabetes in healthy adults.1 Similarly in the secondary prevention of CHD there is no benefit from reduced fat, including saturated fat, on myocardial infarction, cardiovascular or all-cause mortality.2 It is instructive to note that in an angiographic study of postmenopausal women with CHD, greater intake of saturated fat was associated with less progression of atherosclerosis whereas carbohydrate and polyunsaturated fat intake were associated with greater progression.3" [2]

There's plenty of evidence, however that sugar is a much more dangerous driver of CVD [3], which is obvious when you look at the pandemic levels of obesity and metabolic syndrome (and co-morbidity and lack of decline in CVD) that coincided with the demonization of saturated fats (and replacement with much worse trans-fats and high n6 PUFAS [4])...

[1] https://health.clevelandclinic.org/why-you-should-no-longer-...

[2] https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/51/15/1111

[3] https://openheart.bmj.com/content/4/2/e000729

[4] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3335257/

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