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You want them to get a heart attack instead? Lots of cultures have good breakfast that don't rely on sugar or cholesterol. Look to the Mediterranean/Middle East/Central Asia/Far East.
OP’s point is even bacon and eggs is healthier than boxed cereal. (My preferred breakfast is miso soup.)
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> get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk It took me a long time to realise that milk was sugary. I'd grown up worrying about the fat content of milk, but all milk, whether full fat or skimmed, has like 5g of sugar per 100ml, a pretty similar sugar content to Gatorade. We know milk has lactose but we don't usually think of lactose as a sugar like we do with sucrose or fructose.
I may be wrong but I think many milks add sucrose. The other thing is if you don’t buy organic milk then your milk is also loaded with the antibiotics that we give to dairy cows which attaches to the fat in the milk. So a good rule is if you go organic get whole milk (because it is a good source of fat) but if you buy regular milk get skim (to avoid some of the antibiotics).
https://www.fooddialogues.com/antibiotics-hormones-milk-dair...
Nothing prevents dairy farmers from treating cows producing "organic" labeled milk, but just like "normal" milk, they are removed from sending milk into the food chain.
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OP’s point is even bacon and eggs is healthier than boxed cereal. (My preferred breakfast is miso soup.)
I don't know about other families, but my child won't eat bacon and eggs or other non sugar laden breakfast. I eat bacon and eggs every morning. My child wants cereal, or poptarts, or frozen waffles/pancakes etc. When I removed these items in an effort to have him eat other healthier foods, he decided to not eat anything at home - he'd go to school and instead eat their sugar and carb breakfast. So while I can unders…
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You want them to get a heart attack instead? Lots of cultures have good breakfast that don't rely on sugar or cholesterol. Look to the Mediterranean/Middle East/Central Asia/Far East.
I'm pretty sure that the idea that cholesterol causes heart attacks is fake news.
Dietary cholesterol’s role in heart attacks has been largely disproven, but “fake news” is malicious disinformation, not mistaken conclusions from flawed decades-old research.
All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…
[1] http://pcrm.org/health/cancer-resources/diet-cancer/facts/ba...
[2] https://nutritionfacts.org/2015/08/20/what-do-eggs-do-to-our...
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OP’s point is even bacon and eggs is healthier than boxed cereal. (My preferred breakfast is miso soup.)
I don't know about other families, but my child won't eat bacon and eggs or other non sugar laden breakfast. I eat bacon and eggs every morning. My child wants cereal, or poptarts, or frozen waffles/pancakes etc. When I removed these items in an effort to have him eat other healthier foods, he decided to not eat anything at home - he'd go to school and instead eat their sugar and carb breakfast. So while I can unders…
Let's not suggest that parents don't have almost complete control over their kids at this age.
I can reconcile your anecdote against how I was raised: My school didn't have free food, so I didn't have a choice and your scenario was impossible. I either ate breakfast and packed a lunch or went the day hungry. I preferred the former. My parents didn't buy poptarts. I had to learn to enjoy healthy food for breakfast and a ham sandwich for lunch, and I'm very thankful for that.
All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…
Bacon and eggs? Jesus... Considering you are advocating for removing unhealthy foods, surely you could have mentioned something actually healthy.
Eggs seem reasonably healthy, but last time I ate that every morning, my cholesterol readings spiked. Bacon has higher fat, saturated fat, and preservatives than fresh eggs. I would imagine that bacon is worse.
This thread is an exercise in food fashion. What is "healthy" is more about a fashion trend rather than hard science. In any case, the scientifically recommended diets to high-blood pressure patients (what US People suffer most of) is the "DASH" diet. And unlike other fad diets, the "DASH" diet is actually scientifically studied. Bacon is certainly off the Dash diet, since it completely blows up your salt intake for the day.
There has been a demonization of sugar recently, but no doctor has ever recommended to me a low-sugar / glycemic index index diet. It doesn't seem like I'm personally at risk for Diabetes (while I'm high-risk for High-blood pressure). So I'll stick to my doctor's advice for me personally, rather than take some internet opinions.
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Yeah. The problem with bacon is the nitrites, not the cholesterol.
Yea, I'm celiac and sodium nitrite is one of the foods I cut out. Might not affect everyone but it definitely messes with me. The uncured bacon products usually have celery powder which also contains sodium nitrite. Plain pork belly is the way to go.
I wonder if we're approaching the point of recognizing sugar addiction as a real thing. Just watch a number of children and you'll see, even from a young age, a wide variety of reactions to sugar. For example, one I cna think of has always (and continues to be) "sensible" with sugar. Like if she has a soda, she'll stop when she's had enough. If there are chocolates there she'll have one or two. One of her sisters jus…
My explanation for the difference you observed is that siblings somewhat have non-overlapping coping strategies. If one gets angry, the other is being yelled at. If one eats more than their share, the other eats less. If one is asking people to leave them alone, the other is being left alone.
This creates major difference in subjective experience and coping strategies just by virtue of being socially juxtaposed.
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OP’s point is even bacon and eggs is healthier than boxed cereal. (My preferred breakfast is miso soup.)
I don't know about other families, but my child won't eat bacon and eggs or other non sugar laden breakfast. I eat bacon and eggs every morning. My child wants cereal, or poptarts, or frozen waffles/pancakes etc. When I removed these items in an effort to have him eat other healthier foods, he decided to not eat anything at home - he'd go to school and instead eat their sugar and carb breakfast. So while I can unders…
the advice is the same but if you believe it carries more weight coming from a pediatrician and father of 8...here is a link to Thornburg Pediatrics, I recommend signing up for their newsletter.