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Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by cromka »

ruralfam wrote: post #31
firefoxd wrote: post #8

I remember many years ago thinking, "if they can have a add a SIM card on a phone, why not add one in your car? Imagine an Internet connected car?" What I didn't think about was this would be an opportunity for ads and subscriptions. And everyday you'll own less and less of your car. I'm shopping for a car right now, I may have to just put a fresh coat of paint on my old one.

Not just the ads. They are likely tracking your location, and drive events. These can be sold to your insurance company who may adjust your rates, or even drop you if they consider your driving patterns to be risky. When we got our Ford Maverick, first thing I did was disable this. Kudos to Ford for making this easy. Downside is that we got a recall notice about the software for the backup camera needing an update. I…

Just a reminder: shit like this doesn't easily happen where a regulation like GDPR is in effect.

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by Thorrez »

petre wrote: post #93
rightbyte wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with boycotting subscription looked down cars, but what is the point of remote start? Defrosting?

Gasing your neighbours and every living beign on a 100ft radius. I can't stand drivers that idle their cars while they're gone doing other stuff. Remote start should totally be a subscription feature, before it gets banned or regulated. Why? Because it's very annoying.

Do you live in an area where it snows frequently?

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by kylehotchkiss »

estimator7292 wrote: post #91
CGMthrowaway wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. This problem of in-vehicle ads definitely stems from the current president, and a different president can and will solve it for good. A multi-step config panel for these ads is exactly what we need.

The word "admin" in the above comment is short for "administration" which encompasses thousands of individuals across pretty much every branch and department of the government.

Exactly, I mean departments like the FTC, CPSC, DOT (these ads are probably displaying while driving at highway speeds, much like the jeep software updates deploy at lol)

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by razingeden »

sudonanohome wrote: post #35
hereme888 wrote: post #14

I had already scratched Jeep off my car-buying list years ago. Now the bulk of car-buying research is not "how good is it?" but "what are the purposefully in-built annoyances? Can I hack them away?"

You won't have any options for non garbage vehicles pretty soon. It's more profitable to sell you garbage and than sell you the maintenance on the above mentioned garbage while getting a steady trickle of revenue for ad impressions. Ford pulled focus/fiesta lineup from US ignoring great sales (despite widely known DCT issues) just so they can focus on selling the garbage SUVs and pickups, highest margin cars. But hey…

great sales yeah (7bn+) but those dsp6 recalls on the fiesta cost ford about 2 billion.

id buy another one. (in manual.)

i dont know how many other gen5 fiesta owners would walk down the aisle with that car again tho

i think the dsp’s kind of cool. still have a 2011 in a barn somewhere. its on engine #2 and transmission #2 at 124,000 and thats not even counting all the bad grounds, bad caps, electrical squirrels ive been able to track down and fix. it wasnt that bad to deal with, but i totally empathize with anyone who doesnt remember theirs fondly or want to go out and get another one just like it

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Post by willio58 »

rightbyte wrote: post #72
willio58 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My partner recently bought a newer Subaru. It’s great, and when we looked it up we saw it had remote start. Turns out it’s behind a subscription. When I found that out I essentially wrote off Subaru as a brand for my future car purchases. Catch me driving my 2017 civic into the ground before I pay a freaking subscription for basic vehicle functionality

I agree with boycotting subscription looked down cars, but what is the point of remote start? Defrosting?

Most people in my area don’t have garages and we get well below freezing in the winter. Yes we use it for defrosting and getting the car a little warmed up prior to driving to work in the morning.

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by qball »

sudonanohome wrote: post #105
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly can't say I notice any difference between driving a manual or an automatic car. If we were in a car right now and I was driving, I'd have to look at the gearstick to tell you if it was auto or manual. I genuinely don't get the USian obsession with driving manual gearbox cars being somehow "elite".

When you have a small fuel efficient engine, you can tell and feel the difference. With a V6 under your hood, you probably don't care. US is mostly big engines

You will still care that you're wasting a bunch of your engine's potential, even with a V8.

Autos (not DCTs) don't generally let you rev the engine as high as manuals do, they don't really let you take advantage of engine braking, and they may ignore your command to manually shift them into a lower gear at will (DCTs can do that too).

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Post by triceratops »

Thorrez wrote: post #112
petre wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gasing your neighbours and every living beign on a 100ft radius. I can't stand drivers that idle their cars while they're gone doing other stuff. Remote start should totally be a subscription feature, before it gets banned or regulated. Why? Because it's very annoying.

Do you live in an area where it snows frequently?

Does it clear your driveway of snow? Otherwise I'm not sure why leaving a running vehicle unattended is useful. If the car is too cold when you get in, put a coat on. Too much ice on the windows? Scrape it off.

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by willio58 »

petre wrote: post #93
rightbyte wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with boycotting subscription looked down cars, but what is the point of remote start? Defrosting?

Gasing your neighbours and every living beign on a 100ft radius. I can't stand drivers that idle their cars while they're gone doing other stuff. Remote start should totally be a subscription feature, before it gets banned or regulated. Why? Because it's very annoying.

I’ve never heard of remote start being used as a way to idle your car while doing other stuff. It’s most commonly used to defrost a car in the winter without having to get into it and sit in the freezing car while you’re not moving anyway.

There’s a time limit on it on my car, I think about 10 minutes or something pretty sane. If you don’t get into your car by then it turns back off automatically.

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Post by apparent »

Animats wrote: post #24

Just when you think Stellantis couldn't do anything worse... This is the company that ran Chrysler into the ground. The only remaining Chrysler product is one mini-van. They raised the prices on Jeeps so much that they lost their market. They went the "mild hybrid" route, with such silly things as 21 miles of electric range. The Stellantis dealers signed a joint letter demanding that the CEO be fired. That was done.…

> They went the "mild hybrid" route, with such silly things as 21 miles of electric range

"Mild hybrid" typically refers to a vehicle with a passively-charged battery pack, not a PHEV that has any material amount of electric-only range.

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