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Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

sudonanohome wrote: post #42
qball wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The attitude that the computers should always be subordinate to the driver also extends to the transmission.

100% manuals are the way to go if you want to feel like a driver, not a passenger. I love my manual Jetta Thing is, people are lazy. US market is automatics only. Can't make people understand what the clutch is or why slushbox is bad for fuel efficiency. No one cares. Gas guzzlers are the national idea My kid learned to drive a manual in 15 minutes. Too much effort for US drivers!

I honestly can't say I notice any difference between driving a manual or an automatic car.

If we were in a car right now and I was driving, I'd have to look at the gearstick to tell you if it was auto or manual.

I genuinely don't get the USian obsession with driving manual gearbox cars being somehow "elite".

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by celsius1414 »

rightbyte wrote: post #72
willio58 wrote: post #58

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My partner recently bought a newer Subaru. It’s great, and when we looked it up we saw it had remote start. Turns out it’s behind a subscription. When I found that out I essentially wrote off Subaru as a brand for my future car purchases. Catch me driving my 2017 civic into the ground before I pay a freaking subscription for basic vehicle functionality

I agree with boycotting subscription looked down cars, but what is the point of remote start? Defrosting?

Or the opposite: cooling the interior to a survivable temperature.

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by hvb2 »

sudonanohome wrote: post #33
chneu wrote: post #16

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You could still buy some rad cars into the '10s but you generally had to go looking. The fiesta st is a decent example. An economy car, so very simple, but with a sports package. The only "smart" features, like traction control, can be turned off.

You forgot to mention that ST is a manual transmission car, not for everyone

It's an anti theft feature too

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Post by morshu9001 »

willio58 wrote: post #58
hereme888 wrote: post #14

I had already scratched Jeep off my car-buying list years ago. Now the bulk of car-buying research is not "how good is it?" but "what are the purposefully in-built annoyances? Can I hack them away?"

My partner recently bought a newer Subaru. It’s great, and when we looked it up we saw it had remote start. Turns out it’s behind a subscription. When I found that out I essentially wrote off Subaru as a brand for my future car purchases. Catch me driving my 2017 civic into the ground before I pay a freaking subscription for basic vehicle functionality

There was an article not long ago about a Subaru vuln that allowed anyone to remote start, track, or unlock any new Subaru

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Post by cindyllm »

venturecruelty wrote: post #69

It's an interesting phenomenon. Something like this happens every week or two, and then these threads basically just become cope, with vague advice that most people can't easily do ("oh, just desolder the eSim contacts, it'll be fine"), as though that is in any way a longterm solution to corporate overreach in our daily lives. What if we all decided to actually work together to fix this terrible situation? Unfortunat…

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Post by morshu9001 »

sudonanohome wrote: post #35
hereme888 wrote: post #14

I had already scratched Jeep off my car-buying list years ago. Now the bulk of car-buying research is not "how good is it?" but "what are the purposefully in-built annoyances? Can I hack them away?"

You won't have any options for non garbage vehicles pretty soon. It's more profitable to sell you garbage and than sell you the maintenance on the above mentioned garbage while getting a steady trickle of revenue for ad impressions. Ford pulled focus/fiesta lineup from US ignoring great sales (despite widely known DCT issues) just so they can focus on selling the garbage SUVs and pickups, highest margin cars. But hey…

I got a Honda, it's fine

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Post by userbinator »

SoftTalker wrote: post #10
gdulli wrote: post #5

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Oh really? My current car is over 20 years old so I'm way out of the loop. I guess I'll hope for options with smaller screens that control fewer of the functions.

Keep that car as long as you can. Modern cars are shit. Peak of cars was probably 1990s/2000s.

1960s/early 1970s for me.

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Post by justin66 »

willio58 wrote: post #68
readthenotes1 wrote: post #62

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Remote start is basic vehicle functionality for you? You and I understand the word "basic" differently. I wish they'd offer a lifetime purchase option--but maybe they learned from the 2g remote start debacle not to rely on technology they don't control

In the age of push-to-start cars, yeah it does feel basic to me. If I can unlock my car with my key fob, why can’t I send a signal to start it? My 2017 Honda civic has it without a subscription so I was pretty shocked to learn that Subaru decided its customers would be cool with it being behind a pay-wall.

My Toyota is charging a monthly fee for it as well.
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