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Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by someNameIG »

vanilla_nut wrote: post #73
X-Istence wrote: post #16

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> I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. Chrome used to be tied into Keychain but they went their own way a long time ago, which is a damn shame.

I believe Apple only lets you use certain APIs (like Keychain) if you distribute only through the App Store. That policy has really killed a lot of functionality on macOS. I suspect it will cause fiction on iOS when the EU forces them to allow alternative install sources. Personally, it grates me when Apple cripples functionality this way to try to keep us stuck in their platform. Can't use Firefox with Keychain. You…

Is there a reason Chrome, Edge, and Firefox aren't on the Mac app store? I know the yearly dev account costs can be an issue for small developers but Google, Microsoft, and Mozilla are already paying that as they release apps on the iOS App Store.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by aequitas »

rootusrootus wrote: post #71
animal_spirits wrote: post #48

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Chrome on mac should by default be able to work with the Apple password keychain

No, Google has not implemented support for Keychain in Chrome. AFAIK neither has Firefox.

They actually removed support for Keychain, Chrome on macOS used to support it in the past.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by great_psy »

imwithstoopid wrote: post #41
great_psy wrote: post #33

I have been using the Apple manager since LastPass got hacked recently. Hot take , but … I like the lack of integration in other operating systems/ browsers. I see my phone as a Secure Enclave, and my passwords should be disconnected from potentially insecure systems. I see the phone as those keychain one time passwords where you have to press a physical button to get a key. Is it inconvenient to get a password, yes.…

don't lose or break your phone....

I have my old iPhone with no sim that I mostly take to the gym to protect the new one.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by great_psy »

whitewingjek wrote: post #79
MBCook wrote: post #55

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iCloud solves that.

Unless Apple ever starts following Google's lead to ban accounts for any infraction and you don't store backups... Not saying Apple is doing that now, but I imagine it's not outside the realm of possibility.

We can use the same argument for any other cloud password manager. If google/Apple blocks my access, well it’s those services I am trying to log into in the first place so the point is moot.

Also I have recovery keys for the more important accounts printed and stored in a safe box.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by [deleted] »

someNameIG wrote: post #111
vanilla_nut wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe Apple only lets you use certain APIs (like Keychain) if you distribute only through the App Store. That policy has really killed a lot of functionality on macOS. I suspect it will cause fiction on iOS when the EU forces them to allow alternative install sources. Personally, it grates me when Apple cripples functionality this way to try to keep us stuck in their platform. Can't use Firefox with Keychain. You…

Is there a reason Chrome, Edge, and Firefox aren't on the Mac app store? I know the yearly dev account costs can be an issue for small developers but Google, Microsoft, and Mozilla are already paying that as they release apps on the iOS App Store.

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Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

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Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by filmgirlcw »

aaronharnly wrote: post #28

I follow Ricky Mondello, who works on the Apple password keeper functionality — they post interesting tidbits pretty regularly. https://twitter.com/rmondello https://hachyderm.io/@rmondello

+1 Ricky is the best. They also made a very useful Shortcut [1] that offers quick access to the Passwords on your Home Screen or Mac menubar.

[1]: https://rmondello.com/passwords-shortcut/

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by kccqzy »

whstl wrote: post #17
hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

There seems to be a Google Chrome extension called "iCloud Passwords" but it only has two stars, so I don't think you'll be positively surprised. Also, on iPhone it's ok-ish but on Mac the experience is a subpar too: Keychain, the app you use to view your passwords, feels like a 90s Visual Basic application. Plus you can't organize your accounts, and even if you prefix them to "sort by name", the special name you giv…

What's wrong with Keychain Access? It hasn't changed its appearance since more than a decade. That's a good thing for familiarity. Early Mac OS X apps have incredibly good design that doesn't waste space.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by nailer »

hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

I was about to say the same thing: Apple has a password manager? I’d consider Apple Passwords to be less than half a password manager.
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