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Apple passwords deserve an app

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Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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I have been using the Apple manager since LastPass got hacked recently. Hot take , but … I like the lack of integration in other operating systems/ browsers. I see my phone as a Secure Enclave, and my passwords should be disconnected from potentially insecure systems. I see the phone as those keychain one time passwords where you have to press a physical button to get a key. Is it inconvenient to get a password, yes.…

don't lose or break your phone....

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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post #26

While we're on the subject, other Apple things that deserve an app: Dashboard/status - I have a smart lock, and they have their own app, where all it really does is show the current status of the lock and let me toggle it. There are quite a few apps like this. It'd be nice if they could all be condensed into a dashboard/status app that could just tweak values and show current status. Apple Home attempts to do some of…

Have you tried Notification Summaries yet? That's sort of like a "deliver notifications to a separate app".

In the notifications settings you create at least one Scheduled Notification Summary. I've currently got ones setup roughly every four hours during "core daylight hours" for me, plus I enable the "preview option" to read the next summary early if I need to. Then you add as many apps as you want to the Notification Summaries. All of the notifications for those apps during each time period get rolled up into a single Summary object in your notifications, only give a notification alert once for the entire group of them (at the scheduled time), and don't cause Watch notifications (if that's a distraction/overload you especially juggle as I do).

At this point I've even got all my email notifications going into Summaries (which is why I turned on the preview for the next summary if I feel like I need a quick glance at recent email subject lines without opening my email app up).

It is such a useful tool and not a lot of iOS users discover it in the settings. May also be an indicator that it could use its own app because discovery in the Settings app itself is hard. Maybe the Settings app is just doing too many things now and needs some sort of reorg or something.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Keep a “Notes” field where you can add extra data, like 2FA backup codes, for each password!

I'm not sure if the reference here is to Keychain's "Secure Notes" or the "comments" field associated with password items. If the latter, I've found (at least on older versions of OS X/macOS) that when Safari updates the value of a changed password, it deletes the comments! I used the comment field to add the (random) answers to security questions, and got burned on a couple of sites when I've needed to do an account reset and lost those answers.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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I really like Apple's implementation of passwords, passkeys, etc. But...I had a hard time explaining this to my mom. She uses it to generate her passwords and fill-in within Safari which is great! But there's no "Passwords" app, and she didn't know to go into Settings to reference a password when Safari doesn't recognize a password field (probably the website's fault). 2FA is also a confusing experience, but 2FA is a…

But there's no "Passwords" app It's called Keychain Access.

The problem is Keychain Access doesn't pass the "mom test" (would you average consumer - e.g. your mom - actually use it)

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

> If you are 100% Mac then it's a good product. Going outside of the walled Apple garden leaves a lot to be desired. I think Apple would consider this "working as designed."

With passkeys, now every platform can enjoy this level of lock in!

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

> I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. Chrome used to be tied into Keychain but they went their own way a long time ago, which is a damn shame.

I guess they want compatibility/password sharing between Chrome on Mac, Windows and Linux, which I can understand.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Tangentially related, something that has slightly inconvenienced me a few times: Can someone point me to a setting to get Siri to show me my passwords again, on iOS 16?

Before, I could ask on an unlocked phone to “show me my password for GitHub” and Siri would open the settings app with the password list and show the GH credentials. Now (since iOS 16?) Siri just refuses to do any request that contains ‘password’.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple makes a iCloud Passwords chrome extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/icloud-passwords/p...

Windows only! It doesn't work on Mac! I honestly didn't know that was possible before that extension.

Chrome on mac should by default be able to work with the Apple password keychain

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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post #39

Even if macOS and iOS are my primary work (and personal) platforms these days, I still like a solution that works great on Windows, Linux, and Android as well. I'm pretty happy with 1Password - it does all of the things mentioned in this article with more platform support

Exactly, this is why many of the Apple services are useless unless you are 110% in their ecosystem. At least Apple Music is the one app they somehow made available on Android and Windows.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. No, it's not. I alternate between Safari, Firefox, and Duck. If a password I use in Safari isn't stored in Firefox, I copy it from the Keychain program and paste it into Firefox. Firefox then asks to save it. No problem. The GUI is buried in System Settings. It has its own program. /Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access

Your workflow is significantly worse than the experience I get with 1password.
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