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Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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post #31

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Windows only! It doesn't work on Mac! I honestly didn't know that was possible before that extension.

Chrome on mac should by default be able to work with the Apple password keychain

No, Google has not implemented support for Keychain in Chrome. AFAIK neither has Firefox.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#72

I get the impression Apple doesn't want a dedicated app for passwords because they don't want people to think about passwords. It shouldn't be something people manage, hassle, or worry over. They likely want people to just be able to open their phones and have it uniquely identify them seamlessly across a variety of sites. Unfortunately, they're not quite there yet.

Good point, the end goal is probably some sort of biometric MFA solution.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

> I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. Chrome used to be tied into Keychain but they went their own way a long time ago, which is a damn shame.

I believe Apple only lets you use certain APIs (like Keychain) if you distribute only through the App Store.

That policy has really killed a lot of functionality on macOS. I suspect it will cause fiction on iOS when the EU forces them to allow alternative install sources.

Personally, it grates me when Apple cripples functionality this way to try to keep us stuck in their platform. Can't use Firefox with Keychain. You can only view your current Apple Card balance on an iOS device -- not even a macOS device. At the end of the day, I hate being manipulated so much that it actually pushes me away from the platform to see this scummy behavior.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

Apple has to tread lightly on not have too robust of capabilities, especially for non-Apple ecosystem, since it might be consider anti-competitive.

(e.g. Netscape vs Microsoft Internet Explorer)

EDIT: why the downvotes without a reply? If you don't agree, why not just respond why so that a health dialogue can occur.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

> 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven forbid you need search it's only a simple 37 clicks away!

Safari > Preferences > Passwords

Would love to have iCloud Keychain in other browsers, though.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#76
post #38

If Apple password manager is anywhere as well thought out as their 2FA for Apple TV then I don't want to come next to it within 10 light years. Every time it asked me to either "confirm on your iPad" (I have 3 of those around the house) or "confirm on your iPhone" (I have 0 of those) I was ready to hurl shit. SMS option buried in some dark pattern, of course. If these companies want to encroach in the secrets managem…

I think there’s a setting for that in setup. Is your problem that Apple thinks you have a iPhone or that you have to interact with the tv on a second device?

As with all things apple when you buy in you get the best experience. That feature on AppleTV works really well with an Apple Watch.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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post #47

Tangentially related, something that has slightly inconvenienced me a few times: Can someone point me to a setting to get Siri to show me my passwords again, on iOS 16? Before, I could ask on an unlocked phone to “show me my password for GitHub” and Siri would open the settings app with the password list and show the GH credentials. Now (since iOS 16?) Siri just refuses to do any request that contains ‘password’.

You mean Shortcuts? You can have it open this URL:

prefs:root=PASSWORDS

You'll want to set up Siri separately as part of it, but you can definitely do that with Shortcuts.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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post #55

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don't lose or break your phone....

iCloud solves that.

Unless Apple ever starts following Google's lead to ban accounts for any infraction and you don't store backups...

Not saying Apple is doing that now, but I imagine it's not outside the realm of possibility.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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What the actual flying fuck, the apple password thing supports TOTP! That's great! (And a sad testament to how poorly the discoverability is on some ios features)

Not just that, they will detect QR code images to work around sites which assume that TOTP is only available by scanning your desktop screen from your phone.
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