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Apple passwords deserve an app

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Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by DantesKite »

I get the impression Apple doesn't want a dedicated app for passwords because they don't want people to think about passwords.

It shouldn't be something people manage, hassle, or worry over. They likely want people to just be able to open their phones and have it uniquely identify them seamlessly across a variety of sites.

Unfortunately, they're not quite there yet.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#52

Post by zitterbewegung »

hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

You can make a shortcut that opens passwords.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by howinteresting »

hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

It's not just a good product if you're 100% Apple, it's only a good product if you're 100% Apple and are willing to accept a great deal of friction if Apple's direction no longer suits you in the future. It's a version of what some people call "high time preference".

Personally, I was taught to care about the future.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#55

Post by MBCook »

imwithstoopid wrote: post #41
great_psy wrote: post #33

I have been using the Apple manager since LastPass got hacked recently. Hot take , but … I like the lack of integration in other operating systems/ browsers. I see my phone as a Secure Enclave, and my passwords should be disconnected from potentially insecure systems. I see the phone as those keychain one time passwords where you have to press a physical button to get a key. Is it inconvenient to get a password, yes.…

don't lose or break your phone....

iCloud solves that.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#56

Post by sargun »

rohan_ wrote: post #54

>(And it all syncs across your devices, for free?!) IMO the worst part about apple keychain is they can't be used with Chrome (the most common browser for mac!)

I believe this is as much on the Chrome side as it is on the Apple side: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=312105

Chrome could access those natively on Mac, or use the keychain as the native backing store, from what I can tell.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#57

Post by airstrike »

Schiendelman wrote: post #12
hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

On 3, at least: Apple assumes you'll use search on device. If so, it's: 1) Swipe down 2) Type "p" 3) tap autocomplete result in "settings" group.

But if you search on Mac using spotlight you need to type "keychain" smfh my head

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by arghnoname »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #30

internally, apple used to have a pretty big 1Password contract - https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/07/10/apple-looking-to-... Maybe they don’t want to promote their own too heavily, to allow 1Password to take on the organizational risk of running a password manager? (For context, think about your current view of lastpass vs how you felt about it a year before their leak). Maybe the internal password management fun…

1password has features that are useful in a large corporation that keychain does not have, particularly around sharing passwords and password vaults.

I haven't noticed even minimal credential sharing facilities in keychain.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#59

Post by airstrike »

cj wrote: post #44
reaperducer wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But there's no "Passwords" app It's called Keychain Access.

The problem is Keychain Access doesn't pass the "mom test" (would you average consumer - e.g. your mom - actually use it)

They don't even know why it's called that

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#60

Post by Camillo »

animal_spirits wrote: post #48
larrik wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows only! It doesn't work on Mac! I honestly didn't know that was possible before that extension.

Chrome on mac should by default be able to work with the Apple password keychain

Meaning it ought to, but doesn't, right?
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