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Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by waboremo »

Fully in agreement here, getting people used to Apple Passwords can be a task purely because it's stuffed into settings.

Would like to see them in the process of transitioning it away from settings, also include the ability to change the name of the entries. Multiple URLs per login would be great too (or even a linking of separate entries). Think these are the biggest things keeping many general users still relying on the likes of 1Password/Bitwarden, which is where I disagree with the writer here, I think third party password tools should be replaced by sane defaults as soon as possible outside of niche cases.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by Schiendelman »

hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

On 3, at least: Apple assumes you'll use search on device. If so, it's: 1) Swipe down 2) Type "p" 3) tap autocomplete result in "settings" group.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by sagarkamat »

hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

Agree on most of this but Keychain Access IS a standalone app on the mac so slightly confused about the comment about it being buried in System settings. Its still a pain to go to the app and copy a password for non-Safari browsers though.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by dwheeler »

> And it all syncs across your devices, for free?!

Really? My Linux devices? Android? Windows? I don't think so.

I recommend considering one of the most important features of a password manager is that it doesn't force you to use a single manufacturer's products forever. Even if you swear undying fealty to Apple (or anyone else) today, you might change your mind in the future. 1Password, Bitwarden, and others allow me to switch PC manufacturer, phone manufacturer, browser, and so on.

I can't tell you how many people used to think "Internet Explorer is popular, it'll always be the one and only browser". That did not end well.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#16

Post by X-Istence »

hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

> I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable.

Chrome used to be tied into Keychain but they went their own way a long time ago, which is a damn shame.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by whstl »

hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

There seems to be a Google Chrome extension called "iCloud Passwords" but it only has two stars, so I don't think you'll be positively surprised.

Also, on iPhone it's ok-ish but on Mac the experience is a subpar too: Keychain, the app you use to view your passwords, feels like a 90s Visual Basic application. Plus you can't organize your accounts, and even if you prefix them to "sort by name", the special name you give is lost after using it.

On the other hand, I already have other Apple cloud stuff and kinda trust them, so I suffer through it. And other password managers aren't anything to write home about either to make me change :/

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by taylorlapeyre »

hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

Apple makes a iCloud Passwords chrome extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/icloud-passwords/p...
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