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Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by lolc »

Tistel wrote: post #77

I have heard a couple of podcasts that had some very credible US pilots talking about this. I think detecting life on other planets or aliens here would be great (so long as they are not trying to kill me yada yada). But, the most down to earth explanation is signal/sensor warfare testing. Bare with me for a moment. The web is part of the sensor array of a spider. There are species of insects that tap on spider's web…

I wonder what protections modern military radar systems use against such attacks. I find it plausible that they were played to see how well their detection works.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by mrfusion »

lolc wrote: post #97
wonderwonder wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This assumes they are not coming from some giant station on the other side of our sun, parked there for the last several hundred years. They could also be anywhere in our solar system, that our technology is not advanced enough to detect. We cant really keep track of all the space rocks floating near us and they aren't trying not to be seen.

That would be really weird for them to be hiding from us behind the sun. What's in it for them? They arrive in Sol to set up a base but the carbon-based predators on the wet planet must not be disturbed. Why should they care about us in that specific way? That tale sounds a lot like typical human hubris to me.

We hide to observe animals all the time.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by wonderwonder »

lolc wrote: post #97
wonderwonder wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This assumes they are not coming from some giant station on the other side of our sun, parked there for the last several hundred years. They could also be anywhere in our solar system, that our technology is not advanced enough to detect. We cant really keep track of all the space rocks floating near us and they aren't trying not to be seen.

That would be really weird for them to be hiding from us behind the sun. What's in it for them? They arrive in Sol to set up a base but the carbon-based predators on the wet planet must not be disturbed. Why should they care about us in that specific way? That tale sounds a lot like typical human hubris to me.

Why do we have rules about disturbing the tribes in the amazon or the Sentinelese. Maybe there are established rules about contacting primitive cultures? Maybe they are just watching for the Fermi Paradox to take care of us.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by jostmey »

If the video is real then my guess is we are looking at a glider being towed at supersonic speed.

The air-tow could be flying higher in the atmosphere beyond the reach of basic ground defense systems. The glider would not give off a heat-plume but could have enormous maneuverability

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by andbberger »

throwaway7951 wrote: post #45

https://www.ovnis-armee.org/11_plasma_technology.htm The above discusses exploiting the Bethe Formula to produce a radiant point at some distant from a beam generator. IIUC the energy falloff suddenly increases below a threshold energy level therefore the particle beam will deposit most of its energy in a very short distance. Could the reported 'tic tacs' i.e. bright white elongated balls be the result of this? Would…

See also: the writing of Tom Mahood [1], some of the best and most authoritative I've ever seen on the subject. He also tears into Bob Lazar which is a nice bonus.

[1] https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strang...

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by all2 »

nradov wrote: post #88
CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

Any potential adversaries are smart enough to realize that if the US military had really invented a fundamental breakthrough they wouldn't be spending a fortune on the B-21 program.

This kind of thing is highly compartmentalized. The decision makers for the budget of the B-21 program probably aren't cleared to know about a program developing an engine that ignores inertia.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by cairo_x »

dotancohen wrote: post #95
mattlondon wrote: post #7

What I find kinda interesting about this is the HUD apparently being able to "lock on" or track or whatever the object. Are these HUD things around the object just visual bounding boxes around something with high contrast, or are the HUDs doing sensor fusion with IR and radar and other things? Not just for UFOs but I've seen similar things from gun cam footage in Iraq etc and wondered how it works.

> What I find kinda interesting about this is the HUD apparently > being able to "lock on" or track or whatever the object. And that's the answer to what this object was. The tracking devices do not track regularly-flying objects so well, so how was this not-by-the-laws-of-physics object tracked? Because the object was dirt on the lens. This has been proven by several different methods. Firstly, the object stays on t…

... except both pilots saw the object using their eyeballs through the window.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by lolc »

mrfusion wrote: post #112
lolc wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be really weird for them to be hiding from us behind the sun. What's in it for them? They arrive in Sol to set up a base but the carbon-based predators on the wet planet must not be disturbed. Why should they care about us in that specific way? That tale sounds a lot like typical human hubris to me.

We hide to observe animals all the time.

Most of the time we don't.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by gregable »

wonderwonder wrote: post #85
baybal2 wrote: post #70

I think if we ever see an alien, he will either fly to us in a completely enormous nuclear rocket which we will spot years before his arrival and deceleration. This is in the case if there is really no other way to traverse stars besides conventional rocketry. But in case if there is a way to trick any of the fundamental physics we know after all, then very likely the guy will come right at our porch, and they've pro…

This assumes they are not coming from some giant station on the other side of our sun, parked there for the last several hundred years. They could also be anywhere in our solar system, that our technology is not advanced enough to detect. We cant really keep track of all the space rocks floating near us and they aren't trying not to be seen.

Is that even necessary? If they sit far enough out, are sufficiently small, and are not broadcasting radio, I doubt we'd notice them.
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