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UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I believe what they saw was some sort of test of a FLIR defeating tech. Like an IR laser projection from a sub launched drone. It explains why it could move so fast and have no propulsion, it was just a laser dot moving around the sky and he was the cat chasing it around.

Or simply some FOD on the FLIR lens or sensor that bounced around a bit as the plane was moving.

Multiple planes saw it from different angles at the same time.

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Hypothesis: Any aliens advanced enough to build an objecting moving as impossibly as the pilot says would also be advanced enough to not be detected doing so.

Intelligence in one area doesn't mean intelligence in another, it may also be that they don't care about being spotted.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I believe what they saw was some sort of test of a FLIR defeating tech. Like an IR laser projection from a sub launched drone. It explains why it could move so fast and have no propulsion, it was just a laser dot moving around the sky and he was the cat chasing it around.

I’m not sure how you can project anything into space that would be seen with continuity by both man and machine to look and act the same (keep in mind IR and visible light have different properties). If you’ve ever played with a laser pointer you’ll know what I mean: it drives the cat crazy when it jumps/skips/disappears because now it’s being projected on a different plane of surface (in the air: a different cloud o…

Prepare a long vertical trail of diffractive cloud media ahead of time, using some stealthy drones. Then draw on your “canvas” using a broad-spectrum beam, possibly from another stealthed drone (or combination of such.) The diffractive properties mean that the part of the “canvas” being hit becomes a point source, emitting in all directions (except directly above/below, where the rest of the “canvas” is—but unless you’re in a helicopter keeping still, you won’t really be able to notice that.)

This is the kind of stuff we’ve been doing to fool guided air-to-air countermissiles into not hitting their targets for a long time now. Penaids. Just fancy ones.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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post #33

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

One of the pilots in this incident was on Rogan saying how they used to fly silently without lights above remote campsites, then once they saw a campfire blast the lights and go straight up. They'd laugh as the UFO reports flowed in. Similarly, the stealth fighter was in operation for 20 years before the public knew about it. It's not unrealistic to consider top secret tech as a possible explanation. One counter poin…

> Similarly, the stealth fighter was in operation for 20 years before the public knew about it

First flew 1981, first official photo released 1988. And plenty of speculation in betwee..

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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https://www.ovnis-armee.org/11_plasma_technology.htm

The above discusses exploiting the Bethe Formula to produce a radiant point at some distant from a beam generator. IIUC the energy falloff suddenly increases below a threshold energy level therefore the particle beam will deposit most of its energy in a very short distance. Could the reported 'tic tacs' i.e. bright white elongated balls be the result of this? Would explain the supposedly physics defying nature of their aerial manoeuvres.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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post #30

Anytime I try to pursue the UFO question I feel like I’m being intentionally gaslighted by government agencies. The public-ish analysis of UFOs, AATIP is an incredible farce. They focused on star trek warp drives and after the funding dried up they started hanging out with Blink 182 to smoke weed and pat each other on the back for being crazy alien believers. These aren’t sound scientific minds that are capable of an…

Sometimes it has an easy explanation given typical information asymmetries and incentive structures. For example, you don't give away any of your external intel during a war (i.e. cold war) in the case that you are identifying something by your enemy that might be trying to hide from you. Letting them know you can detect them would be stupid. Also, for similar reasons, record and catalogue every strange phenomenon in…

I don't think one can cover just anything in an open society. Even the truly secret military gear like the original H-bomb, F-117, A-12, anti-powerline bombs, and navy stealth helicopter were impossible to hide completely. At least the fact of their existence was out long before the public saw them.

Even in paranoid USSR, people knew of computer guided recon drones, spy sats, Shkvals, Dvinas, R73 and Strelas — all of which were more secret than the bomb, and were equally bordering on "sci-fi" and unbelievable to the layman at the time.

The leak of Shkval's existence was of particular embarrassment to the Union's military and counterintelligence. Supposedly, there were less than 50 people in the whole Union who were privy to info on them in full, but even before it entered service it became an "urban myth" among civilians in military cities and such.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Anytime I try to pursue the UFO question I feel like I’m being intentionally gaslighted by government agencies. The public-ish analysis of UFOs, AATIP is an incredible farce. They focused on star trek warp drives and after the funding dried up they started hanging out with Blink 182 to smoke weed and pat each other on the back for being crazy alien believers. These aren’t sound scientific minds that are capable of an…

Haha, it looks like a classic case of enthusiasm being mistaken for competence. I can't imagine any reasonable agent would have chosen to work on this project so you only get the kooks.
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