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Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by ianai »

wonderwonder wrote: post #85
baybal2 wrote: post #70

I think if we ever see an alien, he will either fly to us in a completely enormous nuclear rocket which we will spot years before his arrival and deceleration. This is in the case if there is really no other way to traverse stars besides conventional rocketry. But in case if there is a way to trick any of the fundamental physics we know after all, then very likely the guy will come right at our porch, and they've pro…

This assumes they are not coming from some giant station on the other side of our sun, parked there for the last several hundred years. They could also be anywhere in our solar system, that our technology is not advanced enough to detect. We cant really keep track of all the space rocks floating near us and they aren't trying not to be seen.

How about they’re from a birth of life somewhere nearby but hard for us to detect - like oceans below the surface of Enceladus?

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by [deleted] »

baybal2 wrote: post #46
Jd wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes it has an easy explanation given typical information asymmetries and incentive structures. For example, you don't give away any of your external intel during a war (i.e. cold war) in the case that you are identifying something by your enemy that might be trying to hide from you. Letting them know you can detect them would be stupid. Also, for similar reasons, record and catalogue every strange phenomenon in…

I don't think one can cover just anything in an open society. Even the truly secret military gear like the original H-bomb, F-117, A-12, anti-powerline bombs, and navy stealth helicopter were impossible to hide completely. At least the fact of their existence was out long before the public saw them. Even in paranoid USSR, people knew of computer guided recon drones, spy sats, Shkvals, Dvinas, R73 and Strelas — all of…

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Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by preommr »

baybal2 wrote: post #70

I think if we ever see an alien, he will either fly to us in a completely enormous nuclear rocket which we will spot years before his arrival and deceleration. This is in the case if there is really no other way to traverse stars besides conventional rocketry. But in case if there is a way to trick any of the fundamental physics we know after all, then very likely the guy will come right at our porch, and they've pro…

Trying to apply logic to a conspiracy theory is usually a pointless endeavor.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by [deleted] »

nradov wrote: post #88
CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

Any potential adversaries are smart enough to realize that if the US military had really invented a fundamental breakthrough they wouldn't be spending a fortune on the B-21 program.

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Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by dotancohen »

mattlondon wrote: post #7

What I find kinda interesting about this is the HUD apparently being able to "lock on" or track or whatever the object. Are these HUD things around the object just visual bounding boxes around something with high contrast, or are the HUDs doing sensor fusion with IR and radar and other things? Not just for UFOs but I've seen similar things from gun cam footage in Iraq etc and wondered how it works.

  > What I find kinda interesting about this is the HUD apparently
  > being able to "lock on" or track or whatever the object.
And that's the answer to what this object was.

The tracking devices do not track regularly-flying objects so well, so how was this not-by-the-laws-of-physics object tracked? Because the object was dirt on the lens. This has been proven by several different methods. Firstly, the object stays on the same spot on the screen. Second, it rotates when the camera gimbal locks and rotates. Third, the filename of the published file is actually "GimbalLock" or something of the sort.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by wonderwonder »

ianai wrote: post #91
wonderwonder wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This assumes they are not coming from some giant station on the other side of our sun, parked there for the last several hundred years. They could also be anywhere in our solar system, that our technology is not advanced enough to detect. We cant really keep track of all the space rocks floating near us and they aren't trying not to be seen.

How about they’re from a birth of life somewhere nearby but hard for us to detect - like oceans below the surface of Enceladus?

I think that makes sense too, we are still finding out basic things about the moons of Jupiter and Saturn. Space wise we are really just getting started.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by lolc »

wonderwonder wrote: post #85
baybal2 wrote: post #70

I think if we ever see an alien, he will either fly to us in a completely enormous nuclear rocket which we will spot years before his arrival and deceleration. This is in the case if there is really no other way to traverse stars besides conventional rocketry. But in case if there is a way to trick any of the fundamental physics we know after all, then very likely the guy will come right at our porch, and they've pro…

This assumes they are not coming from some giant station on the other side of our sun, parked there for the last several hundred years. They could also be anywhere in our solar system, that our technology is not advanced enough to detect. We cant really keep track of all the space rocks floating near us and they aren't trying not to be seen.

That would be really weird for them to be hiding from us behind the sun. What's in it for them? They arrive in Sol to set up a base but the carbon-based predators on the wet planet must not be disturbed. Why should they care about us in that specific way? That tale sounds a lot like typical human hubris to me.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by ubertoop »

I wonder... Could you project an image into the atmosphere via satellite.

Maybe this was just an image.

It accelerated with apparently 0 mass. It left no exhaust plumes. It was invisible to radar EVEN as they got close.

Fit's all the criteria for something that isn't really even there.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by thatsenough »

suby wrote: post #19

One of the most fascinating things about this UFO Navy story is that at least one of the UFO's employed radar jamming after being spotted.[0] To me, this is good evidence that we are not dealing with a currently unknown natural phenomina. [0] https://abcnews.go.com/US/navy-pilot-recalls-encounter-ufo-u...

Radar jamming is pretty well-known, isn’t it? For instance, you blast the target with noise across radar’s bandwidth, drowning out the return signal.

There are various techniques and countermeasures, but it’s not alien technology.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by baddox »

wonderwonder wrote: post #85
baybal2 wrote: post #70

I think if we ever see an alien, he will either fly to us in a completely enormous nuclear rocket which we will spot years before his arrival and deceleration. This is in the case if there is really no other way to traverse stars besides conventional rocketry. But in case if there is a way to trick any of the fundamental physics we know after all, then very likely the guy will come right at our porch, and they've pro…

This assumes they are not coming from some giant station on the other side of our sun, parked there for the last several hundred years. They could also be anywhere in our solar system, that our technology is not advanced enough to detect. We cant really keep track of all the space rocks floating near us and they aren't trying not to be seen.

I suspect that space probes like STEREO would have been able to see a giant space station on the other side of the Sun, but they might not have been looking.
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