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NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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Or sometimes wedding parties, such as one where the US government murdered 47 innocent people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deh_Bala_wedding_party_airstri...

You mean like the 3000 in the World Trade Center?

So two wrongs will somehow make things right?

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#112

How would America respond if it found out that say the UK is tracking cellphones worldwide, except for British subjects of course, but including all Americans on American soil?

Five Eyes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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I wonder if they manage to track my cell phone more accurately than my cell phone manages to track itself.

My phone rarely seems to be sure what country it is in, let alone which town.

Simply lost count of the number of times I've been like, "yeah, I'm sure the weather is lovely where I was a week ago, but I'm more interested in where I am now".

Must be quite depressing for the NSA analysts stuck in their cubical watching people run around the world having fun while they stuff another donut down their fat american face.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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The people they kill are those who have killed others. Quit pretending they are innocents just minding their own business.

Educate yourself: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/civilian-deaths-drone-st...

I don't know how you see this as credible evidence. When she links her evidence of the report to the Intercept it links to another Huffington article talking about the Drone Papers. Could you explain how she came to ninety percent with the Drone Papers ?

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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Man I will forever be grateful for the eye opening insights Snowden has provided to us. I now check for https and use tor and always block cookies. How is there not a monument in every city dedicated to this hero?

New York had one for awhile:

http://gothamist.com/2015/04/06/snowden_bust_fort_greene.php

http://gothamist.com/2015/04/07/edward_snowden_hologram.php#...

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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post #102

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Killing someone because they killed someone is an infinite loop.

So we shouldn't have done anything after all the major terror attacks in the past decade ? You need to elaborate more on your general point.

The burden of being virtuous is that you should not use the same methods that the vile used on you. Something needed to be done about the terror attacks. But that something shouldn't include torture and the summary execution of people.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#117

The thing that bothers me most about this as a European is; I have zero say in this, in the US you can strike out against surveillance, you can write to senators, protest against terrible legislation. Actually have a voice, however faint it is. Whereas I don't get a say but the exact same treatment from your country. The Five Eyes have made me paranoid and the only escape seems to be downgrading your phone to a brick…

>Whereas I don't get a say but the exact same treatment from your country.

The NSA works with the 5 eyes to gather data on you. If you want to stop the NSA from spying on you, vote in your democratic country to remove yourselves from our intelligence agreements.

It doesn't necessarily mean the NSA won't spy on you, but it does mean it will be technically illegal for them to do so, so they probably won't do it unless they actually care about you.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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they are tracking our every single movement, and aspire to track our every single thought we have a duty to resist this totalitarianism by any means possible or necessary; fascism is here, and free men can't delude themselves with hoping for gradual change to the contrary any further.

How many government employees does it take to track and analyze my every movement?

A couple of engineers, depending on the situation.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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The thing that bothers me most about this as a European is; I have zero say in this, in the US you can strike out against surveillance, you can write to senators, protest against terrible legislation. Actually have a voice, however faint it is. Whereas I don't get a say but the exact same treatment from your country. The Five Eyes have made me paranoid and the only escape seems to be downgrading your phone to a brick…

Reminds me of a humorous saying I read somewhere. Roughly: Move to the U.S., because the only thing worse than living there is being subjected to its foreign policy.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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post #102

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So we shouldn't have done anything after all the major terror attacks in the past decade ? You need to elaborate more on your general point.

The burden of being virtuous is that you should not use the same methods that the vile used on you. Something needed to be done about the terror attacks. But that something shouldn't include torture and the summary execution of people.

I don't think we used the same barbaric methods. Terrorists have the intention of killing any nearby civilian , even if they are non government or military most of the time they play their attacks.
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