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Number one with 27 points in 20 minutes for yet another chan board (named...pepe ) with a risible rationale? News for hackers, indeed.
"You see, freedom of speech and expression must be absolute." This is a very ignorant take on freedom of speech and a terrible foundation for your project.
"Thou shalt not kill" is also an absolute bedrock principle which is, of course, impossible to literally always follow. But it's still a very important guidepost around which to orient your principles. "Freedom of most OK speech is absolute" is a useless principle. Which is why we should not frame the freedom of speech as such.
Parler is a shit hole, and at this point I’m not sure we need another social network anything. The major ones do a lousy job of policing fake news and misinformation, and from your tone it sounds like you support that garbage. I’m pretty sure giving every moron on earth a globally-accessible soapbox is about the stupidest idea humankind has ever had.
> I’m pretty sure giving every moron on earth a globally-accessible soapbox is about the s̶t̶u̶p̶i̶d̶e̶s̶t̶ most profitable idea humankind has ever had.
In a tolerant society, should we tolerate intolerance? I am genuinely interested to hear your thoughts.
Karl Popper explored this idea extensively. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.—In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal ...
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"Thou shalt not kill" is also an absolute bedrock principle which is, of course, impossible to literally always follow. But it's still a very important guidepost around which to orient your principles. "Freedom of most OK speech is absolute" is a useless principle. Which is why we should not frame the freedom of speech as such.
You sir, are not familiar with the old testament.
This is actually my entire point. It's a principle broken on many occasions, but nobody walks around saying "Oh, we shouldn't even TALK about not killing — that's IGNORANT — because there are so many exceptions where it's okay to kill people."
You can still guide around important principles, even if reality imposes exceptions!
dang: this seems incorrectly flagged.
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Free speech is a public good in itself. Voltair would not approve of "I might agree with what you're saying but you drew a pepe so you need to be shut down".
“I may disagree with what you say, but I will not write a critical Hacker News comment, since you are a pathological crybaby who interprets any negative remark as an act of censorship.” Nowhere did I say that the app should be “shut down.” I said it shouldn’t be supported.
You can pretend to care about North Korean censorship all you want, but if you name your platform “Pepe,” positively cite 4chan as an influence, and take the time to criticize “cancel culture SJWs” then it’s quite clear what your intentions and motivations are, and who your audience is: you want to create a space run by and for racist pieces of garbage. You don’t actually care about free speech at all, and neither do…