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Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by jimbob45 »

gchamonlive wrote: post #4

In a tolerant society, should we tolerate intolerance? I am genuinely interested to hear your thoughts.

Every piece of speech is intolerant to someone out there. The mistake is thinking that any bit of speech is empirically tolerant or intolerant.

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by threevox »

arkitaip wrote: post #5

"You see, freedom of speech and expression must be absolute." This is a very ignorant take on freedom of speech and a terrible foundation for your project.

"Ignorant" == you can't be bothered to come up with a genuine refutation

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by cmeacham98 »

chrissnell wrote: post #7
gchamonlive wrote: post #4

In a tolerant society, should we tolerate intolerance? I am genuinely interested to hear your thoughts.

We should tolerate all speech. That doesn't mean you can't scream and call it hate speech, but do so from your own platform.

What about libel/slander? What about child pornography? What about doxxing?

Surely you agree we have to draw the line _somewhere_, even if you disagree with where we currently draw it?

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by drusepth »

loceng wrote: post #10

Will it prevent blocking others from replying to counter irrational, unreasonable thinking - or say, if someone's promoting violence - can others be able to comment to try to quell, calm the anger - or will individuals be able to censor whomever they like which is arguably as bad as deplatforming?

>What is fundamentally different with Pepe is moderation. Instead of relying on a centralized entity with a banhammer, each board and thread owner may anonymously moderate their spaces on their own. However, nothing can actually be deleted, it can only be shadowed, and each user decides whether they want to see the light or the full version of the page at any moment in time. People can still reply to shadowed posts inside their own shadowed posts, so no one cannot silence anyone, only maintain order on the light side.

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by endisneigh »

I'm surprised no one has made a truly decentralized site using webtorrent or ipfs, such that the more people use it, the harder it is to take down.

I suppose databases would be hard to implement with both, but you could just save everything as updating flat files and the database could be a progressive enhancement.

seems like an interesting technical problem to solve. if you're willing to trade off speed for resilience it seems possible with today's technology with very little modification.

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Post by jimbob45 »

tovej wrote: post #6

"You see, freedom of speech and expression must be absolute." That's pretty extreme. First, freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence of speech. And second, freedom of speech only applies to public forums. Why would a private enterprise need to put up with someone spreading vitriol and fake news? Let's say I own a mall, and you rent a store in that mall. You suddenly decide that you are going to start selling…

What if you exclusively kick all blacks out of your mall? Under your rules, that should be indiscriminately allowed.
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