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I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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All of my installations told me "we're discontinuing this app, here, download the desktop app."

Maybe that was the update? Granted, I haven't used the Universal app in a long time because it's not nearly comparable in featureset to the desktop one. It'd be nice if there were update logs more than "General fixes" but oh well.

I hate Skype so much, but I don't know of anything better. Google Hangouts has been extremely unreliable for me.

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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https://projectbullrun.org/surveillance/2015/video-2015.html... Of course MS wants to get in on surveillance-as-a-business-model. It keeps people tied to your Service as a Software Substitute, and as long long as most people are still ignorant about how technology works, they won't notice how the stalker-like nature of a lot of modern soft^H^H^H^Hmalware. As for the few nerds that notice, they can probably be shut up…

I spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about this very issue, and I must go back and forth weekly. My first reaction is to want to defend the ignorant, to try to educate them and work to protect them from being taken advantage of.

But when you talk to people about it, _their_ apathy and indifference is what leads me to stop caring. I've tried for years to educate friends, family, and coworkers on digital privacy. The number of people who have even installed and used a password manager is 0. If it's a struggle to even get someone to try out, let alone USE DAILY a password manager, what hope does anyone have to elicit a privacy-aware mentality from the general population? Why work to help people who do not even want to be helped?

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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I'll answer your rhetorical question with another one. When was the last time you paid for an upgraded hammer?

I haven't paid for a hammer since I was in college and Hammer XP was $5. I keep buying nails that come with Hammer Home Edition and setting up servers with Hammer LTS and replacing Hammer Explorer with HammerFox. All free. I'm not Microsoft's target client because I'm a pathological customer. Every home MS desktop user is a pathological customer. They know that.

I think maybe you forgot a 'not' in there, assuming you wanted to disassociate yourself.

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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Windows is now essentially a personalized, cloud-based operating system with the primary interface as a personal assistant, so I expected to see all these things as defaults. The advanced features just couldn't work without it. I'm glad there's at least an opt-out, but I do think that Windows needs an OS-wide incognito mode, just a simple switch to record or not record data. I generally use that on my browser for whe…

"The advanced features just couldn't work without it."

I don't know much about Windows 10, so I'm curious what features you are referring to that require heavy tracking like this.

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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I've been waiting for this comment, I can see how the first set of customization options really seem like they'd help with the personal assistant. It would be interesting to get a full audit of where your data goes and what they can use it for (training your personal assistant, improving their algorithms, responding to Govt data requests, improving ads, etc). As for incognito, can you sign into windows as guest now?…

It's still possible to create a local guest account, but that means giving up a lot of settings that I might want to maintain on the regular account, and it's a hassle to have to log out and in again just because I don't want to record something. Maybe I want to plan a surprise trip for someone who also uses the computer or get information about a strange rash that might be nothing without making that part of my perm…

> It's still possible to create a local guest account

Is it? I haven't tried the release build yet but this was removed from the preview.

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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Windows is now essentially a personalized, cloud-based operating system with the primary interface as a personal assistant, so I expected to see all these things as defaults. The advanced features just couldn't work without it. I'm glad there's at least an opt-out, but I do think that Windows needs an OS-wide incognito mode, just a simple switch to record or not record data. I generally use that on my browser for whe…

"Windows is now essentially a personalized, cloud-based operating system with the primary interface as a personal assistant."

Who wanted that for desktop computers or laptops? This is not going to fly with business customers. Microsoft has already bombed twice in the business space, with Windows Vista and Windows 8. This looks like another bomb.

Windows 7 is still pretty good, and it will probably be the main Microsoft desktop OS for years to come, despite what Microsoft wants.

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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I've never understood how people can truly believe that by checking (or unchecking) a checkbox their privacy will be fully protected. Especially since we're talking about a closed-source OS. I mean I cannot possibly verify what exactly goes on in the annals of the operating system and what happens to my data, where it is logged and where it is stored and how it is sent. So regardless of the settings, I always assume…

What's more, opting out essentially marks you as more interesting to spy on.

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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Windows is now essentially a personalized, cloud-based operating system with the primary interface as a personal assistant, so I expected to see all these things as defaults. The advanced features just couldn't work without it. I'm glad there's at least an opt-out, but I do think that Windows needs an OS-wide incognito mode, just a simple switch to record or not record data. I generally use that on my browser for whe…

"I expected to see all these as defaults".

It would be fine if they were defaults if you actually saw them.

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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I dont' know why so many people are surprised by the Cortana data vacuum. Doesn't Siri send everything you say to it to Apple or a "trusted partner"? Why would Cortana be any different? The keylogger and Start menu ads are just creepy though. I shouldn't have to opt-out of targeted ads INSIDE MY OS.

>I dont' know why so many people are surprised by the Cortana data vacuum.

Well, today is Thursday. That other stuff was from Tuesday. Tomorrow it will be something else about somebody else.

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