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Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. The right to play DVDs must be paid for every computer. You paid it when you bought the Windows 7 or 8 that you'll maybe upgrade to 10. Now the upgrade to Windows 10 takes that feature away from you. They apparently (the twitter message isn't actually the company statement) plan to return it "sometime in the future" and "if it might be free or if it…

Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. Windows 8.1 had no built in DVD player. Nor did Windows 7 Starter or Basic. Further, I suspect it's a feature that the vast majority of people have never used, exactly why Microsoft decided that they wouldn't subsidize the licensing for no reason. This is a very 2002 discussion. Not that your point isn't valid -- at least for those users who ever act…

> it's just pretty odd that such a comment sits at the very top of an enormous technology event.

Tech people like you and me love to nitpick. It's quite "logical", measurable, and it generalizes complex issues into nicely formatted bullet points.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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post #100

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That is actually illegal in Finland because it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection. Technically you need a licensed player. A few people have turned themselves in for watching a DVD on Linux and they received a token fine.

> That is actually illegal in Finland because it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection. How do you not circumvent the copy protection to read a DVD? (See my various talks about libdvdcss)

It's probably not circumvention if you're using a licensed reader/player.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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post #77

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Yes but you do not have to upgrade to Windows 10 and they made it pretty clear they removed these softwares (it warned me when they proposed the update). This is unfortunate but I don't think Microsoft has been evil here.

"you do not have to upgrade to Windows 10" Everyone has to stop using that as an excuse. It doesn't even make sense & it's myopic. Obsolescence is built into Windows. If you want to continue being safe using Windows you NEED to upgrade. You can choose not to upgrade, but it's at your detriment. It's a choice until it's not.

Sure it is a choice. You absolutely need the DVD player...don't upgrade now. Maybe by the time you need it, the functionality will be restored. Regardless, it is a choice you can make. Don't be entitled.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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post #122
post #41

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> Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. That's bonkers. Ok, it was never a great player and every half-decent geek uses VLC or better, but still, plenty of people use MediaPlayer every day. Tech support hotlines will be overwhelmed by furious customers.

Yes another good reason to switch to Mac. None of my current Macs have DVD drives, so I simply don't have to deal with this problem ;)

I know you're joking, but your Mac, even without an optical drive, will still play a DVD if you connect a drive (networked, USB etc).

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

#196
post #93

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My experience has been the opposite. To me Windows 10 is the continuation of the 8/8.1 trainwreck, with the ridiculous Metro skins, a broken start menu, the half-assed fragmentation of the UIs into Metro/non-Metro, ham-handed app store/online services integrations, and various new features that do not work. I'll be going back to Windows 7, in which at least the UI works. And really, the only thing keeping me attached…

Oh as a gamer you can better just get used to it, because of DirectX 12 games that will come in time.

Oh as developers you better just get used to supporting DirectX 11, because a lot of people still don't want to be brute forced into these situations.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

#197
post #6

Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. The right to play DVDs must be paid for every computer. You paid it when you bought the Windows 7 or 8 that you'll maybe upgrade to 10. Now the upgrade to Windows 10 takes that feature away from you. They apparently (the twitter message isn't actually the company statement) plan to return it "sometime in the future" and "if it might be free or if it…

Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. Windows 8.1 had no built in DVD player. Nor did Windows 7 Starter or Basic. Further, I suspect it's a feature that the vast majority of people have never used, exactly why Microsoft decided that they wouldn't subsidize the licensing for no reason. This is a very 2002 discussion. Not that your point isn't valid -- at least for those users who ever act…

> it's just pretty odd that such a comment sits at the very top of an enormous technology event.

What you call "an enormous technology event" I call a disaster, showing perfect "we don't care for the current users" attitude, even after the public demonstrated what it thinks about the "improvements" in Windows 8. The commenters here rightly point that the returned Start menu is even worse than it was during the tech preview. And I have actually paid for my copies of Ultimate and Pro with Media Center versions and I actually need the features I note are now quietly removed. It's your right that you don't need them, but I do need them and the people who consider installing 10 should know about it too.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

#198
post #197

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Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. Windows 8.1 had no built in DVD player. Nor did Windows 7 Starter or Basic. Further, I suspect it's a feature that the vast majority of people have never used, exactly why Microsoft decided that they wouldn't subsidize the licensing for no reason. This is a very 2002 discussion. Not that your point isn't valid -- at least for those users who ever act…

> it's just pretty odd that such a comment sits at the very top of an enormous technology event. What you call "an enormous technology event" I call a disaster, showing perfect "we don't care for the current users" attitude, even after the public demonstrated what it thinks about the "improvements" in Windows 8. The commenters here rightly point that the returned Start menu is even worse than it was during the tech p…

Okay, so I hope others see your real motives.

Don't upgrade. You paid $0 for Windows 10, had absolutely no expectations about it when you apparently bought Windows 7, and now it's a "disaster" because an unused feature was openly and clearly removed. Give me a break.

This sort of "take a shit on everything" attitude is one of the worst facets of HN, and your comments in particular exemplify them. Don't upgrade. Move on.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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post #197

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> it's just pretty odd that such a comment sits at the very top of an enormous technology event. What you call "an enormous technology event" I call a disaster, showing perfect "we don't care for the current users" attitude, even after the public demonstrated what it thinks about the "improvements" in Windows 8. The commenters here rightly point that the returned Start menu is even worse than it was during the tech p…

Okay, so I hope others see your real motives. Don't upgrade. You paid $0 for Windows 10, had absolutely no expectations about it when you apparently bought Windows 7, and now it's a "disaster" because an unused feature was openly and clearly removed. Give me a break. This sort of "take a shit on everything" attitude is one of the worst facets of HN, and your comments in particular exemplify them. Don't upgrade . Move…

Or upgrade and download VLC.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"you do not have to upgrade to Windows 10" Everyone has to stop using that as an excuse. It doesn't even make sense & it's myopic. Obsolescence is built into Windows. If you want to continue being safe using Windows you NEED to upgrade. You can choose not to upgrade, but it's at your detriment. It's a choice until it's not.

Sure it is a choice. You absolutely need the DVD player...don't upgrade now. Maybe by the time you need it, the functionality will be restored. Regardless, it is a choice you can make. Don't be entitled.

"Don't be entitled."

entitled -- to give (a person or thing) a title, right, or claim to something

I spent my money, I can be entitled. Besides this isn't just about libdvdcss. There are many withdrawn features and anti-features included.

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