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Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by germanier »

airza wrote: post #73
noinsight wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is actually illegal in Finland because it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection. Technically you need a licensed player. A few people have turned themselves in for watching a DVD on Linux and they received a token fine.

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection in the US, as well.

I'm no expert in US law but this US copyright office decision suggests that it's legal in some cases: http://www.copyright.gov/1201/

The case here seems more related to the MPEG patents though.

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Post by ak217 »

skrebbel wrote: post #48

I've been on the "insider preview" for a few weeks now, and I must say that I think Windows 10 is an absolutely amazing OS. Definitely the best Windows I've ever used. Also the best desktop OS I've ever used, but I hope you'll believe me about the "best Windows" even if you can't imagine why a developer would possible want to run something other than $YOUR_FAVOURITE_UNIX. If Windows 10 is as well-received as I expect…

My experience has been the opposite. To me Windows 10 is the continuation of the 8/8.1 trainwreck, with the ridiculous Metro skins, a broken start menu, the half-assed fragmentation of the UIs into Metro/non-Metro, ham-handed app store/online services integrations, and various new features that do not work. I'll be going back to Windows 7, in which at least the UI works. And really, the only thing keeping me attached to the ecosystem is the PC games.

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Post by acqq »

Freaky wrote: post #67
acqq wrote: post #6

Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. The right to play DVDs must be paid for every computer. You paid it when you bought the Windows 7 or 8 that you'll maybe upgrade to 10. Now the upgrade to Windows 10 takes that feature away from you. They apparently (the twitter message isn't actually the company statement) plan to return it "sometime in the future" and "if it might be free or if it…

Yep, Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Back up and Restore (Windows 7) Exact same old craptastic System Image backup stuff. Still can't only backup my C drive, got to include my TB's of bulk data on non-system drives too, grr.

So it's not improved but at least they haven't removed it. Thanks.

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Post by thescrewdriver »

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #88
thescrewdriver wrote: post #38

Be sure to read the licensing fine print about data collection for advertising etc. https://edri.org/microsofts-new-small-print-how-your-persona... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9966236

I've been on the preview since the beginning, when I installed the supposedly "final" build (10240?) about a week ago it ran through a wizard that allowed me to disable this functionality.

Including the per-device unique id for advertisers?

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Post by [deleted] »

noinsight wrote: post #43
shocks wrote: post #24

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You can use VLC. After your comment, I wasn't sure why that was the case. Apparently: > Neither French law nor European conventions recognize software as patentable (see French section below). Therefore, software patents licenses do not apply on VideoLAN software. From http://www.videolan.org/legal.html

That is actually illegal in Finland because it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection. Technically you need a licensed player. A few people have turned themselves in for watching a DVD on Linux and they received a token fine.

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Post by rg_ »

gambiting wrote: post #59
toyg wrote: post #41

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> Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. That's bonkers. Ok, it was never a great player and every half-decent geek uses VLC or better, but still, plenty of people use MediaPlayer every day. Tech support hotlines will be overwhelmed by furious customers.

Windows 10 still supports music and video playback just fine, through applications called Xbox Music and Xbox Video: "Xbox Video supports all the video files you’ve probably been downloading the VLC Media Player desktop app to watch." http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/01/25/windows-10-vs-window...

Why can't I just play my media (which I paid for) on my hardware (which I paid for) in "normal" software (which... I thought I paid for). Instead I have to have the Xbox brand shoved in my face at every opportunity?

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Post by acqq »

louhike wrote: post #77
acqq wrote: post #21

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It's not about what "can" be done, you can also install the pirated software too, the thing is, by buying legally Windows 7 or Windows 8 Media Pack or Ultimate I have really paid the DVD playback functionality to Microsoft as well as the other features I've mentioned. Also read about the legality aspects of the Microsoft's DVD solutions up to now and of the open-source DVD players: http://www.zdnet.com/article/if-vlc…

Yes but you do not have to upgrade to Windows 10 and they made it pretty clear they removed these softwares (it warned me when they proposed the update). This is unfortunate but I don't think Microsoft has been evil here.

Where is the warning being displayed? As far as I've seen you can click through the dialogs without seeing it.

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Post by jbk »

noinsight wrote: post #43
shocks wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use VLC. After your comment, I wasn't sure why that was the case. Apparently: > Neither French law nor European conventions recognize software as patentable (see French section below). Therefore, software patents licenses do not apply on VideoLAN software. From http://www.videolan.org/legal.html

That is actually illegal in Finland because it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection. Technically you need a licensed player. A few people have turned themselves in for watching a DVD on Linux and they received a token fine.

> That is actually illegal in Finland because it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection.

How do you not circumvent the copy protection to read a DVD?

(See my various talks about libdvdcss)

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