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Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by ionised »

abrookewood wrote: post #45
kristofferR wrote: post #39

Official ISO downloads: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10I...

Presumably you have to do an in-place upgrade if you use these? I can't see any mention of what key I am supposed to use (from the reservation tool) if I want to do a fresh install.

From what I understand you have to first do an in-place upgrade, which then gives you access to your license key (via Windows system info or something similar).

You can then use that to do a clean install.

EDIT

I've just read contradictory information here;

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-10/media-creation...

If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer.

Which makes it sound like the version of Windows 10 you received as a free upgrade from Windows 7/8 will not work on any other machine than the one you first install on.

Which is unbelievably shit.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by acqq »

hwh wrote: post #70
acqq wrote: post #6

Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. The right to play DVDs must be paid for every computer. You paid it when you bought the Windows 7 or 8 that you'll maybe upgrade to 10. Now the upgrade to Windows 10 takes that feature away from you. They apparently (the twitter message isn't actually the company statement) plan to return it "sometime in the future" and "if it might be free or if it…

In the specs in the section "Feature deprecation" ( http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specificat... ) Microsoft mentions that removal and that eligible Windows versions will get a free DVD player app after the Upgrade.

Has anybody seen that Microsoft's free DVD player app for Windows 10?

What's actually "a limited time (the “eligible period”)" they talk about? (all the quotes from your link http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specificat... ):

"For a limited time (the “eligible period”), on systems upgraded to Windows 10 from one of these older versions of Windows (a “qualified system”), a DVD playback app (“windows DVD player”) will be installed."

And I've actually paid for the Media Pack upgrade. It goes away now for sure:

"Windows Media Center will be removed."

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by airza »

noinsight wrote: post #43
shocks wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use VLC. After your comment, I wasn't sure why that was the case. Apparently: > Neither French law nor European conventions recognize software as patentable (see French section below). Therefore, software patents licenses do not apply on VideoLAN software. From http://www.videolan.org/legal.html

That is actually illegal in Finland because it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection. Technically you need a licensed player. A few people have turned themselves in for watching a DVD on Linux and they received a token fine.

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection in the US, as well.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by stefanix »

acqq wrote: post #6

Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. The right to play DVDs must be paid for every computer. You paid it when you bought the Windows 7 or 8 that you'll maybe upgrade to 10. Now the upgrade to Windows 10 takes that feature away from you. They apparently (the twitter message isn't actually the company statement) plan to return it "sometime in the future" and "if it might be free or if it…

DVD? What is that?

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by donkeyd »

tdicola wrote: post #68
donkeyd wrote: post #58

Dear marketing people, please stop using "The best ever". If you make a new product it should be better than the previous version, it it's not, you did something very wrong.

> If you make a new product it should be better than the previous version, it it's not, you did something very wrong. They broke that rule with Windows 8/8.1 and are trying to fix it with Windows 10.

Ballmer used to say the same thing about Windows 8. Apple says it about every iPhone, Samsung says it about every Galaxy S. It's become the go-to sentence for marketing in tech and to met it's ridiculous...

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by acqq »

gambiting wrote: post #65
acqq wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But not the DVD playback, which has to be licensed additionally. Being the person who also legally bought the DVDs (all of them are DRMd nowadays) it really hurts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_Scramble_System

To which I already replied in the same thread - use VLC which decodes CSS on the fly, unless you live in a country that doesn't believe in your freedom to play legally purchased content and prohibits doing that(United States of America). Of course, it would be nice if Windows 10 just included that and saved everyone the trouble.

It's not only the US, see the post from the user noinsight here.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by louhike »

acqq wrote: post #21
sergiotapia wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you not use VLC or MPC?

It's not about what "can" be done, you can also install the pirated software too, the thing is, by buying legally Windows 7 or Windows 8 Media Pack or Ultimate I have really paid the DVD playback functionality to Microsoft as well as the other features I've mentioned. Also read about the legality aspects of the Microsoft's DVD solutions up to now and of the open-source DVD players: http://www.zdnet.com/article/if-vlc…

Yes but you do not have to upgrade to Windows 10 and they made it pretty clear they removed these softwares (it warned me when they proposed the update). This is unfortunate but I don't think Microsoft has been evil here.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by 0xffffabcd »

frou_dh wrote: post #40
0xffffabcd wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Upgrade notification is now adware? are you serious? You don't even have to pay for the upgrade and you'll have a lot to gain from it and for us developers, it's a good thing aswell since it might reduce the number of old IEs/plateforms we have to support. I expected more from an HN user..

Is it a "notification" or a longterm limpet on the hull? I looked at a relative's W7 machine and there was a promotional application ("GWX" - Get Windows X?) running permanently with no apparent way to decline its offer or uninstall it.

There is a way to uninstall it by removing update kb3035583

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by 0xffffabcd »

batou wrote: post #63
0xffffabcd wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me it was an icon next to the clock. Once I reserved my upgrade I just hid it in the action center and it never popped again.

It's still there and running though. That's like you know there's a hissing cockroach living under the sink but you just close the door and stick your fingers in your ears.

The other option is to remove kb3035583

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by thescrewdriver »

skrebbel wrote: post #48

I've been on the "insider preview" for a few weeks now, and I must say that I think Windows 10 is an absolutely amazing OS. Definitely the best Windows I've ever used. Also the best desktop OS I've ever used, but I hope you'll believe me about the "best Windows" even if you can't imagine why a developer would possible want to run something other than $YOUR_FAVOURITE_UNIX. If Windows 10 is as well-received as I expect…

> Windows 10 is an absolutely amazing OS

> the best Windows I've ever used

> the best desktop OS I've ever used

I'm not doubting your enthusiasm, but could you elaborate on which features you believe make it superior to every other desktop OS you've ever used?

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