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Stripe Is the New PayPal

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Re: Stripe Is the New PayPal

#91

..Or the new Google..or the new Amazon. Both of the above companies have nearly 100% automated responses. With Amazon, if you get your selling account put on hold for any reason (even if it's by mistake through their automated bots), you will not be able to talk to anyone on the phone or through email. Your account is also put on hold for 90 days and your money might get transferred back to you when they feel like it…

Except Google and Amazon's primary customers are consumers. Amazon's customer support is quite good afaik, at least if you're on the buying end. Stripe is a B2B business it's also a bit 'lower layer'. You would have to rely on them for your business quite heavily.

I guess this is the endpoint of "consumerized" B2B. Slick UI, very easy to use, low pricing, no support.

Re: Stripe Is the New PayPal

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After using Stripe for our subscription service for over 1year with 100'000euro+ monthly transcation we got a 10day notice that they would shut us down. Also the mail was send late on friday before a long weekend, yeah! =) No warnings, no chance to appeal, no heads up and absolutly no possiblity to call them. Lost around half a million euros before we could get our customers exported to another payment processor. Tha…

Did you break their rules? Their terms say that they can cancel your agreement, but only with a 2 months notice: > We can terminate this agreement for any reason on two months’ notice and immediately in certain circumstances Source: https://stripe.com/gb/terms

>certain circumstances (such as where you breach this Agreement)

It concerns me, as this still gives them full power to terminate the agreement immediately anytime they want. They never define what "certain circumstances" are, rather, they just provide one example.

EDIT: I would just like to say that I was mistaken. See the reply to my comment. That said, the US terms differ in an important way.

Re: Stripe Is the New PayPal

#93

Someone else posted last night (I'm on my phone or I would search for the post) about Stripe support. Looking at their Twitter stream it appears they are having a very difficult time managing their support infrastructure and do not have a trouble ticket system. I love Stripe's API and have helped several clients integrate it, but as the developer-friendly, anti-PayPal processor they were once known for, this developm…

Hm. Critical support failures right in time for Balanced Payment's going under... :/

Re: Stripe Is the New PayPal

#94
Every time I see a post like this it makes me wonder if other businesses have unfairly gotten a bad reputation because of anecdotes reported by anonymous customers whose version of the story is subjective, biased, possibly exaggerated, etc.

When a company is huge, even one out of 100,000 transactions going badly adds up to a lot of anecdotes.

Re: Stripe Is the New PayPal

#95
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The post talks about unauthorised charges. There is no way to validate the card prior to Stripe capturing payment, so they certainly are not upset about people using stolen cards on your own site, as you have no way of mitigating that. The migration to Stripe that I handled a year or so ago had 5 or 6 stolen cards/people iterating card lists looking for working cards per day and never had a complaint from Stripe. Onc…

> as you have no way of mitigating that. Actually, you do. In many cases, fraud follows a pattern. If you're a merchant, and you're getting a lot of fraudulent charges, you'll often get into a discussion with your upstream processor's fraud department about the details and how to mitigate it. I don't work in payments anymore, but as an example of how this works, I was talking a few weeks ago with a merchant who does…

Why doesn't the processor do this?

Preventing fraud is the most difficult part of payment processing; are they outsourcing it to the merchants?

Re: Stripe Is the New PayPal

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After using Stripe for our subscription service for over 1year with 100'000euro+ monthly transcation we got a 10day notice that they would shut us down. Also the mail was send late on friday before a long weekend, yeah! =) No warnings, no chance to appeal, no heads up and absolutly no possiblity to call them. Lost around half a million euros before we could get our customers exported to another payment processor. Tha…

Did you break their rules? Their terms say that they can cancel your agreement, but only with a 2 months notice: > We can terminate this agreement for any reason on two months’ notice and immediately in certain circumstances Source: https://stripe.com/gb/terms

That says UK.

Re: Stripe Is the New PayPal

#98
post #60

After using Stripe for our subscription service for over 1year with 100'000euro+ monthly transcation we got a 10day notice that they would shut us down. Also the mail was send late on friday before a long weekend, yeah! =) No warnings, no chance to appeal, no heads up and absolutly no possiblity to call them. Lost around half a million euros before we could get our customers exported to another payment processor. Tha…

off topic but can you link me the business/company you are involved in?

Re: Stripe Is the New PayPal

#99
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I recently reached out to Stripe to get their opinion on whether or not I should bother trying to integrate stripe.js with my browser based game. I obviously didn't want to invest the effort if they were just going to shut me down a few weeks later. It says in their TOU that virtual currency sales are allowed so long as it's self contained and can't be traded for real money or across other websites - that was the cas…

They do in their TOS.

Re: Stripe Is the New PayPal

#100

What were you selling, how and to whom? I feel like there's probably more to this.

I feel like this was the key part: "This makes no sense as I have had hundreds of payments and not a single payment has been disputed. So how could it be true that the payments are unauthorised?" Disputed and Unauthorized are two very different things - especially with the time frame of less than a month. It would have been much more convincing if he'd said "I've had hundreds of payments and all have been authorized by the end user" I suspect there's some sort of crowd funding element but either way shall wait to see what the blog post says.
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