"Pao, who has said she would appeal, has offered to drop her case for $2.7 million, Kleiner Perkins said in a court filing earlier this month."
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Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
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Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#42If the cost of work is $229k, and the reward is $276k, then why is there a $47k difference? Making the defendants whole?
Why is there any award at all? I keep hearing that defending a case can bankrupt a person or company that doesn't have deep pockets even if they are successful. Why do these guys get reimbursed?
Why does she have to pay the legal fees incurred by the defendants because she tried to extort money? Is that what you're asking? She has to pay because she lost, and they weren't doing anything wrong.
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#43"Pao, who has said she would appeal, has offered to drop her case for $2.7 million, Kleiner Perkins said in a court filing earlier this month."
I get that people will probably disagree, but she just seems to not make very good business decisions. Maybe I'm way off base, but I've read a bunch of well qualified lawyers say that juries are just plain unpredictable, and that no competent lawyer can "guarantee" to win. In that light, even if the $1M settlement wasn't what you're asking for, I would think it paints a better picture of you than losing and having to pay the other side? Anyone care to explain something that I might be missing?
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I wouldn't sign the petition and I don't care about her lawsuit or the recent subreddits that were banned, I'm turned off from reddit by their reaction to the fallout, particularly their fudging of the front page and /r/all and blocking comments mentioning an imgur alternative. I'm back to reading funnies from fark.com and now looking at voat.co. It's been a long time coming, longer than Pao has been CEO, and I…
Sources? That all sounds interesting.
There are no sources, it's the same garbage people keep repeating with zero evidence.
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because someone suing for false claims is now at the head of Reddit, and she has the power to censor things she does not like (and actively uses it). I'd day it's related.
What evidence do you have that she actively uses it?
There've been some rather high-profile shadowbans (hellban/otherwise you're banned but don't know it) issued against people who did apparently did nothing but publicly state that Pao is a scam artist.
Given that those comments don't actually violate any of Reddit's stated rules, there aren't many other reasonable explanations.
Then again, I called every single one of them liars, publicly, by name, after the recent subreddit closing drama, and I'm not shadowbanned so, who knows.
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it wasn't, it was creating cesspits of hate when left to itself. Considering the amount of good communities on that website, the last thing I would want is for it to be overrun by such negativeness.
My searches on Reddit for entirely unrelated keywords have been increasingly polluted by distracting hateful crap that I do not want to see. Subreddits aren't independent/isolated enough that they can do whatever they want without it having an impact on the site as a whole. Reddit's looking for more growth. I'm sure that many potential users have been turned away from the site by similar experiences. If they manage t…
I can respect that - I never use Reddit's search function so I have been relatively unaware of that. I think the problem is that its almost impossible to police all of reddit - even if you shut down one thing (as we saw) 10 more pop up. Not sure there is a good solution, but the lesser of evils might be to just ignore the antagonists.
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I wouldn't sign the petition and I don't care about her lawsuit or the recent subreddits that were banned, I'm turned off from reddit by their reaction to the fallout, particularly their fudging of the front page and /r/all and blocking comments mentioning an imgur alternative. I'm back to reading funnies from fark.com and now looking at voat.co. It's been a long time coming, longer than Pao has been CEO, and I…
Sources? That all sounds interesting.
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Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#48Related, over 10k people has petitioned for her to step down from her position at reddit: https://www.change.org/p/ellen-k-pao-step-down-as-ceo-of-red...
Not remotely related. Please take your off-topic hate elsewhere.
Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I wouldn't sign the petition and I don't care about her lawsuit or the recent subreddits that were banned, I'm turned off from reddit by their reaction to the fallout, particularly their fudging of the front page and /r/all and blocking comments mentioning an imgur alternative. I'm back to reading funnies from fark.com and now looking at voat.co. It's been a long time coming, longer than Pao has been CEO, and I…
Yeah I'd love to see the evidence there is any 'fudging' of the frontpage or blocking comments. I seriously doubt there is.
I believe he's referring to the admins banning all the new subreddits that were created after the announcement to spam /r/all, for ban evasion.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
(downvote at will, rephrased to make it a bit more polite) As far as I could tell, people were relatively content with Reddit even when it had bad stuff, but people started getting noisy when the censorship started. Comes down to a debate on censorship, which is admittedly quite divided. I don't condone hate speech, but its also sometimes tricky to separate hatred from a rational opinion about something. Ultimately y…
Freedom of speech does not apply here. Reddit is not a forum owned by the public, it's a business. Reddit is within their rights to remove any content as they see fit. Yeah, people complain once they realize walled gardens like Reddit start censoring whatever they choose only /after/ they get too big to stop. Same goes for closed ecosystems like the App Store and Google Play. Guess you should have read the fine print…
I agree - good points :)