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Re: Today is the end of sheloshim for my beloved husband

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"Goldberg collapsed at a private beach-front villa near the Four Seasons Resort in Punta Mita, near Puerto Vallarta, Mexico" Today, 21,000 children died from causes that are preventable. I don't see any posts on HN about that. http://www.unicef.org/mdg/childmortality.html "Then said he also to him that bade him, When thou make a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy…

I believe it to be distasteful to use the death of someone whom this community has some connection to push a separate agenda. You can call out our priorities as being too short-sighted if you want, but this is a poor way to do it.

I created a new post with a recent article on Quartz;

"Bill Gates: Keep up the momentum against child mortality"

Let's see how that fairs here on HN. I mean, it's Bill Gates, right? It's his agenda, and I suspect part of 'this community', no?

Re: Today is the end of sheloshim for my beloved husband

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Investing money, creating new products, and all the other things we do are wonderful games and can be a lot of fun, but it's important to remember that it's all just a game. I feel like this sentiment is very common, but is implicitly stating that all of the other things, family, friends, personal health etc... are not games - when I don't see why that would be the case. Nothing distinguishes those things for me. Cre…

What are the things that—on your deathbed—you expect to regret? Will it be that you didn't spend as much time as you could've with your parents before they died? How about with your siblings? Maybe it was all of the times that you didn't make it to your kids' soccer games, piano recitals, school plays, or graduations? Or will it be that you didn't spend nearly enough nights at the office fixing your social media star…

Actually, I think I would regret all the stuff I could build if I were alive a little bit longer.

People who are creative and say otherwise are just lying (to others and to themselves probably). Or maybe, like you wrote, they are living a life they suppose they should live, instead of the life they actually want to live.

Re: Today is the end of sheloshim for my beloved husband

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post #8

My favourite part: > "Celebrate your birthday, goddammit. You are lucky to have each one."

I haven't celebrated my last three. They just become like any other day to me and they fly by.

I didn't even realise my last birthday was coming up within a few days until my dad mentioned it to me.

Re: Today is the end of sheloshim for my beloved husband

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post #3

Paul Buchheit wrote a wonderful post, after similar circumstances, that I often re-read: > On a more practical level, what matters most in our day-to-day lives is that we're good to ourselves and to each other. It's actually not possible to only do one or the other -- we must do both or neither, but that's a topic for another time. Sometimes, when I write about startups or other interests of mine, I worry that perhap…

Investing money, creating new products, and all the other things we do are wonderful games and can be a lot of fun, but it's important to remember that it's all just a game. I feel like this sentiment is very common, but is implicitly stating that all of the other things, family, friends, personal health etc... are not games - when I don't see why that would be the case. Nothing distinguishes those things for me. Cre…

We wouldn't be quoting Paul Buchheit or talking about Dave Sandberg if they hadn't sacrificed some of those relationships, or health for the products and platforms that we know them for. And that's the real point - legacy. Someone's legacy is not the relationships they had personally, just look at the miserable relationship failures of Steve Jobs, but their impact on bringing their vision and impact on groups outside of their circle.

Hmm... legacy. That's the bit that's tricky.

You suggest that "telling junk from non-junk is an exercise in futility," and in many ways that's quite an agreeable sentiment. So much speculating and lots of people mostly get it wrong.

But if it's futile to tell the junk from the not-, what's the argument for sacrificing your joy and happiness while "chasing the rabbit?" If we can't generally tell the difference between fantastic and flotsam, what's the argument for removing ourselves from the lives of people that care for us and love us?

If it's legacy, I think we're missing the point of it all. Because legacy is a personal goal, is a self-effecting goal. Legacy isn't about helping other people, it's about some lasting kind of immortality.

We have to be more whole than the people we're trying to help. If we deficit of our joy and happiness, if we don't know how to give that to ourselves and our loved ones, how can we possibly hope to give it to others?

There's that parable about dealing with the plank in your own eye, so that you can see clearly enough to deal with the speck of sawdust in your brother's. I think this is a time we might find some wisdom in that story.

It sounds like a lasting impact of Dave Goldberg was the love he helped grow in his family and their friends. There's a heartbreaking outpouring of love in Sandberg's essay. I don't wonder if it was their achievement in being whole in their love, his commitment to his inner circle, that allowed him to bring passion to those outside of it.

I think we'd all be so lucky.

Re: Today is the end of sheloshim for my beloved husband

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post #127

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Whilst I also think the parent comment is callous and stupid, I don't think your comment is called for.

HN is a great community, with smart comments and good people. It will only stay that way if people call out bad behavior. Especially in a case like this where someone made an account just to post such a nasty comment.

Sure, but there are ways to call out behaviour and I don't think we need to descend to "FOAD" types of comments. I wasn't criticising the gist of your comment, just the way it's phrased.

Arguably, this comment wasn't worthy of a response, just a downvote and flag.

Re: Today is the end of sheloshim for my beloved husband

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post #123

I have nothing but empathy for her grief - everything I've read about her makes her seem like an amazing woman, but I am very deeply uncomfortable with public displays of emotion like this. I guess this is one of those dumb culturally ingrained traits, because rationally I cannot really come up with any reason why it should make me feel so uneasy, but I feel like I'm gawking when I read someone describing their grief…

You're not alone in this. Many people find this difficult both to do and to witness. I think it's because many of us are, sadly, not comfortable with vulnerability. Brené Brown has an excellent and very popular talk on that topic, I warmly recommend it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCvmsMzlF7o

Re: Today is the end of sheloshim for my beloved husband

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To first approximation, there are almost no people who would have a "grand legacy" that could extend centuries. How many do you know from 1850? Eventually, no one will remember you, and that is true even if you are the most successful person on earth. The urge to have a legacy is a manifestation of the fear of death, and is primarily an exercise of ego. It does not have to overtake one's life.

It's not about being remembered, it's about your life having positive impact beyond those you can personally see.

Legacy is about being remembered; it's your name attached to tangible achievements, your name credited for effects.

Impact exists with our without legacy. The network effect of your friends' lives may be outwardly invisible, but the impact of their work, on the lives of anyone they lived near and around, had fun near and around, served near and around, worked near our around... is quite vast.

You don't have to be Abe Lincoln or John Rockefeller to have lived a meaningful life.

Re: Today is the end of sheloshim for my beloved husband

#140
post #106

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You should be a little careful. The odd thing about creative professionals, which includes most software developers, is that if you take Maslow's hierarchy of needs as the truth for the general population, for creative professionals this pyramid of needs is inverted. You see, most creative professionals are profoundly unhappy people. This is because the equation for happiness is usually easy - your expectations have…

A 32 year old lecturing a (supposed) 20-something about life experience. I guess cynicism is becoming younger and younger.

Could you explain what is cynical about his message, or undesirable (or so I gather from your post, incorrectly perhaps)?
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