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Re: Jump – Experiences like you're actually there

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Post by adityasankar »

qq66 wrote: post #25
adityasankar wrote: post #7

16 GoPros? Sounds expensive. Certainly not something I would buy, since it would gather dust on the shelves along with my other gadgets after a few initial uses. That being said, this may be the right time to reinvest in 360 degree stereoscopic video since the viewing technology is finally catching up. Point Grey has been making similar spherical cameras since the 90's [1] Pretty cool idea overall. Other questions I…

The 16-GoPro rig isn't for a home user, it's for YouTube channel owners and other video publishers who are making money from their videos and want some more immersive content.

Well, I guess my point is that this is a bit overkill. A professional content producer may want higher quality than consumer gopro cameras.

Whereas a home user (who may also want to create such immersive content) is left out in the lurch.

Re: Jump – Experiences like you're actually there

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Post by prbuckley »

There are a couple of consumer ready 360 camera options available to purchase today ($300-$400), albeit not 3d steroscopic. I have personally played with the ricoh theta and the kodak pixpro and think they are good products. Here are some links if you want to check them out, I don't work for any of these companies but am a VR enthusiast...

Good for stills and video https://theta360.com/en/about/theta/

Action camera similar to GoPro http://kodakpixpro.com/Americas/cameras/activeCam/sp360.php

http://www.vsnmobil.com/products/v360

Re: Jump – Experiences like you're actually there

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Post by jonknee »

swalsh wrote: post #12

So, if you're at an event or something (like sxsw) do you wear this as a hat? or have a large pole... or how does filming with this actually work?

Mounted on a tripod like any other camera system. Most people will view the content, few will record (16 cameras is a lot of money/hassle/data).

Re: Jump – Experiences like you're actually there

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Post by artursapek »

javert wrote: post #2

Almost impossible to read that font on my machine. edit: I'm on Linux/Firefox. I assume it has to do with what font sets I have installed.

People who have retina screens tend to forget that most of the world still doesn't have retina screens.

Re: Jump – Experiences like you're actually there

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Post by schooldistrict »

citruspi wrote: post #30
schooldistrict wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

xiaomi's sports camera is about $70, gopro's cost is about the same I guess

> gopro's cost is about the same I guess The GoPro Hero4 costs $400.

talking about cost here, not price. gopro is way over-priced.

Re: Jump – Experiences like you're actually there

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Post by adityasankar »

devindotcom wrote: post #22

I love all the experimentation in this area but I'm afraid systems like this are going to fall into a sort of uncanny valley of VR. Your brain is incredibly good at picking out the discrepancies between the real world and a high-resolution 120fps image with surround sound - just as it is incredibly good at recognizing objects and motions masquerading as human. It's like going from 2D/24FPS to 3D/48FPS. You'd think it…

I think that's a slightly pessimistic view. This experimentation is what will eventually enable the bridging of the uncanny valley. And I think that day will be here sooner than we think.

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Post by schooldistrict »

uptown wrote: post #26
schooldistrict wrote: post #15

so, based on the first image, I need to press 16 buttons to start capturing, and take 16 sd cards out before I can view them?

GoPro cameras can communicate over wifi, so probably not.

my hero 3 drains its battery super fast when on wifi

Re: Jump – Experiences like you're actually there

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Post by jonknee »

adityasankar wrote: post #31
qq66 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 16-GoPro rig isn't for a home user, it's for YouTube channel owners and other video publishers who are making money from their videos and want some more immersive content.

Well, I guess my point is that this is a bit overkill. A professional content producer may want higher quality than consumer gopro cameras. Whereas a home user (who may also want to create such immersive content) is left out in the lurch.

Well I'm sure you'll be able to one day have a rig of 16 RED Epic cameras and crunch through all the 6K videos, but plenty of neat scenes can be recorded with the current version. 16 GoPros aren't cheap (though this could be quite a nice package for a rental shop), but all-in will still be quite a bit cheaper than just one RED Epic body (without lens!).

Re: Jump – Experiences like you're actually there

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Post by cbhl »

adityasankar wrote: post #7

16 GoPros? Sounds expensive. Certainly not something I would buy, since it would gather dust on the shelves along with my other gadgets after a few initial uses. That being said, this may be the right time to reinvest in 360 degree stereoscopic video since the viewing technology is finally catching up. Point Grey has been making similar spherical cameras since the 90's [1] Pretty cool idea overall. Other questions I…

If you want a cheaper 360 degree camera, consider looking at the RICOH Theta, which retails for $300 on Amazon:

https://theta360.com/en/

http://www.amazon.com/Ricoh-Theta-Degree-Spherical-Panorama/...

Re: Jump – Experiences like you're actually there

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Post by andrewparker »

devindotcom wrote: post #22

I love all the experimentation in this area but I'm afraid systems like this are going to fall into a sort of uncanny valley of VR. Your brain is incredibly good at picking out the discrepancies between the real world and a high-resolution 120fps image with surround sound - just as it is incredibly good at recognizing objects and motions masquerading as human. It's like going from 2D/24FPS to 3D/48FPS. You'd think it…

You're talking about Presense, which is the point at which your brain flips and is convinced what its seeing is real.

Michael Abrash has a wonderful deck he wrote while at Valve about what it will take for VR to create Presense in the viewer. It's worth a read if you care about how we'll navigate past the uncanny valley of VR you describe: http://media.steampowered.com/apps/abrashblog/Abrash%20Dev%2...

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