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If I watch an action movie, I am not intimidated by or identify with the cool guy in the movie because I'm not the guy they're portraying. When sitcoms and commercials emasculate and defame the everyman, I know they're talking about me.
Yet young boys grow up identifying with the hero.
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>People frequently do! Do they? HackerNews search results: * "Misandry": 2 * "Misandrist": 0 * "Misogyny": 59 * "Misogynist": 23 Most people will have to look up "the opposite of misogyny" to find "misandry", and that's telling in itself. I do understand why this happens (misogyny has always been a culturally-recognized problem with real repercussions, the opposite not so much), but it still happens and it does unbal…
Misandry does not exist.
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> It was not feminism that painted the picture of the man as incompetent parent. No, but it is the reason that this is the modern trope men are reduced to in modern media. Matt Groening has gone on the record saying that the reason he created Homer and Bart as incompetent / lovable / stupid / trouble makers, and Lisa / Marge as competent, intelligent role models, is because at the time the series was coming out he fe…
Wait, what are we even talking about here any more - are you saying men contemplate suicide because feminists make them feel bad about themselves? Because of sitcom tropes? Anyway, feminists fight for women. They are mostly women. They had a serious bunch of wrongs to right, more than just some unfavorable sitcom tropes. If they were not, during this fight, sufficiently sensitized to the problems of men, can you real…
I would argue that the way your sex is stereotypically portrayed in society at large _is_ serious.
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> I simply wish to point out the obvious - these prejudice are a product of patriarchy. Since no one can explain what "patriarchy" even is in a concrete way, this is very far from obvious.
You're joking, right? :D
From usage, it seems to mean "a powerful and sinister force that oppresses women".
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Nothing can be good if it chooses to go by the same label as a lot of bad. "Good" feminists provide cover for "bad" feminists. Thus, all feminists are bad.
So there's no good cake because bad cake exists? I'm not quite buying that.
But let's not quibble here---most feminists are collectivists advocating for what they perceive as their in-group at the expense of others. There are very few self-professed feminists who would be good, were it merely not for the label.
Also, the reason you can't understand is probably because you are trying not to. Turning my point into something about cake is probably not an honest attempt to understand my point, but is probably a dishonest attempt to dismiss it.
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How do you know the average age of the people in this thread? From the linked article - "In 2013, if you were a man between the ages of 20 and 49 who’d died, the most likely cause was not assault nor car crash nor drug abuse nor heart attack, but a decision that you didn’t wish to live any more". Dismissing the people who try to talk about these issues and branding everyone 'MRAs' seems like an attempt to kill any di…
From the World health organization, the age group with the highest suicide is 45 - 54 That group used to be the 4th most at risk, now it is the most. But as important as this issue is, some of the most upvoted posts include: "TV...only show men as drunken idiots", "We're turning into a bunch of sissy, touchy feely men", "This is a product of the wrong people continuously trying to redefine masculinity", "The issue ha…
In the UK there has been a lot of talk about how austerity measures have effected people at the bottom of the food chain - people's pensions cut, social welfare limits etc.
This article points out something I've felt intuitively for the last few years. Can anyone recommend any vacation destinations or some other form of a get-away for a week or two? I've been getting really stressed out lately, probably a burn out. Have been thinking about some sort of a vacation anywhere from a cruise to meditation retreat, can't make up my mind. Any recommendations? Not to derail this topic but this a…
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> Even if they were not beneath him , an ideal man in patriarchy simply wouldn't be bothered with such menial tasks. This can only naturally produce such a trope (Emphasis mine) I made an observation given keying words and phrases you used. I've no doubt your description came from an honestly held belief. Describing the ideal male in a patriarchal society to find raising a family or keeping a household to be menial a…
You're really just trolling, are you? :) I already answered this - all systems come with ideals, myths, additional narratives that serve to explain why things are the way they are. And so patriarchy comes with the concept of the ideal man and woman. This is not something I invented. Patriarchy is not merely a value-neutral division of labor, or whatever your cold impersonal description was meant to convey. A key comp…
I think this article puts the euphemism 'social perfectionism' on the subtle, and in some cases blatant anti-male stance that pervades US and UK society today. Sports teams fall over themselves to wear pink for Mother's Day, hardly anyone celebrates Father's Day. [1] Time Magazine publishes an article on how "Men are Obsolete". [2] Politicians routinely trumpet the 77% pay gap despite it being "more complicated than…
Please don't take threads like this further off-topic with prefabricated lists of links and talking points. This is not conversation. This entire thread is a train wreck, but this comment is one of the places the tracks were blown up.
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>These prejudice are a product of patriarchy. No. E.g. The aggressively anti-male prejudice baked into domestic violence law is entirely the work of feminists. There are many other similar prejudices now. So it's simply dishonest to pretend that feminism has had no influence on family law, education, or many other areas where boys and men are struggling.
> The aggressively anti-male prejudice baked into domestic violence law is entirely the work of feminists Ou don't think it has anything to do with the vast numbers of women killed by men? Very few men are murdered by their wives. While domestic abuse from women against men is important please don't make the mistake of saying the levels of severity of violence is the same.
The parent wasn't. S/he said:
> The aggressively anti-male prejudice baked into domestic violence law is entirely the work of feminists
which is true regardless of the statistics; under the US rules (AFAIK), police must arrest someone as a result of a domestic violence call, and the guidance is that they must arrest the "primary aggressor", the person who is bigger, stronger, etc. - deemed more dangerous (i.e. the man), regardless of who's actually being violent.
Even if men were attacking women in 90% of the cases, arresting men in 99% of the cases is sexist anti-male prejudice.