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And I was sat there thinking .org domains are reserved for non-profits.
Nope, that was the original intention, but it's not been restricted for a long time, if it ever was.
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Facebook does NOT have to follow this rule today in its zero-rated India service. https://developers.facebook.com/docs/internet-org/platform-t... > Your service will be proxied by Internet.org. Since we cannot support SSL, TLS, or HTTPS as part of proxying, your content or service should not rely on passing or collecting encrypted information — resources that do so will not be accessible within Internet.org or will b…
You would be amazed by the number of webmails that still offer plain HTTP on their login page, and yet people use them. I'd say it's better than no Internet.
People won't know the difference but we should. We need to find the root of the problem. So far, it seems the root of the problem is that developing nations do not have access to a fat enough pipe to the Internet backbone. Now, why do developing nations not have a fat enough pipe to the Internet backbone? What's the reason here? We should try to fix that at the same time as we try to improve connectivity.
Just because I'm doing something for free does not mean I can half-ass it. People see my commitment and motivation in all things I do. So far, Facebook seems to really be interested in growth for itself as well as an effective shield against an upstart from upsetting them in the developing world.
My apologies for being cynical but we really need to make the infrastructure issue a bigger priority.
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Well finding a sustainable affable way to make money to sustain operations is essential. Offcourse privacy is important however providing access to the non biased internet should be a priority.
Definitely. We should think about an innovative business model or employ traditional non-profit funding methods. You can e-mail me at phil@philippnagel.com if you wish.
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We train them that way the internet is scarce, closed and walled. The Internet used to be scarce, closed and walled in the US and Europe. People adjust to the new conditions as they develop. A DSL line and a wifi router could cover a whole village and give the real deal. You write "a DSL line" as if India wasn't a 3M km² country and with huge areas without even central electricity supply. What would be the cost of in…
2g Internet in India already has high penetration, with most urban areas (any place with >10000 population) having 3g access. I am not sure about DSL lines, but BSNL (Indian public telecom operator) has faced this exact issue 10 years back when telephones (landlines) were becoming commonplace in India. We got a personal phone somewhere in '98 I believe. It only took a few more years before the telephone lines had rea…
I am not sure about DSL lines, but BSNL (Indian public telecom operator) has faced this exact issue 10 years back when telephones (landlines) were becoming commonplace in India. We got a personal phone somewhere in '98 I believe. It only took a few more years before the telephone lines had reached Dangoli (which is my remote native village).
No doubt, yet there's a reason why your country has less than 28M landline subscribers, while it has 930M+ cellphones. Passing cable is expensive and inflexible (e.g. harder to upgrade). Mobile Internet access is a much more sensible solution for the current situation, in my opinion.
"Facebook expects partner services to be optimized for smartphones and feature phones, and be free from JavaScript or SSL/TLS/HTTPS elements" No HTTPS? Really??
Facebook does NOT have to follow this rule today in its zero-rated India service. https://developers.facebook.com/docs/internet-org/platform-t... > Your service will be proxied by Internet.org. Since we cannot support SSL, TLS, or HTTPS as part of proxying, your content or service should not rely on passing or collecting encrypted information — resources that do so will not be accessible within Internet.org or will b…
For webmail login it'd be a problem, but email is almost always sent over the Internet in plaintext; those who want encryption and authentication will be using something like PGP.
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We train them that way the internet is scarce, closed and walled. The Internet used to be scarce, closed and walled in the US and Europe. People adjust to the new conditions as they develop. A DSL line and a wifi router could cover a whole village and give the real deal. You write "a DSL line" as if India wasn't a 3M km² country and with huge areas without even central electricity supply. What would be the cost of in…
> What would be the cost of installing "a DSL line" for the 600k+ villages in India? Worthy > without central electricity supply. If you have electricity for a base station and charging phones, you also have for pbx and copper wire.
Care to say why?
If you have electricity for a base station and charging phones, you also have for pbx and copper wire.
I pointed that out not because there wouldn't be electricity to run the DSL system, but to show how difficult it has been to run electricity supply cables. DSL would have the same problems. And it would be obsolete the day it got installed.
I just don't see ADSL being anything than a more expensive and less flexible alternative to mobile Internet for their current situation.
If it's a choice between Wikipedia and Facebook, or nothing at all, telling poor Indians they should only be allowed to have the latter seems quite cruel. Yes, it's unfortunate they can't be given the whole Internet, but the fact they can get anything at all should be celebrated.
Instead they chose to acquire the internet.org domain (wouldn't the IETF be a better owner of that name?) and are calling it "Internet"; it's like a bait-and-switch. Maybe there should be regulations on what the phrase "Internet access" can be used to advertise, or the word "Internet" itself?
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2g Internet in India already has high penetration, with most urban areas (any place with >10000 population) having 3g access. I am not sure about DSL lines, but BSNL (Indian public telecom operator) has faced this exact issue 10 years back when telephones (landlines) were becoming commonplace in India. We got a personal phone somewhere in '98 I believe. It only took a few more years before the telephone lines had rea…
I wasn't criticizing India's development, just the plan of installing a DSL line for each village. I am not sure about DSL lines, but BSNL (Indian public telecom operator) has faced this exact issue 10 years back when telephones (landlines) were becoming commonplace in India. We got a personal phone somewhere in '98 I believe. It only took a few more years before the telephone lines had reached Dangoli (which is my r…
"Facebook expects partner services to be optimized for smartphones and feature phones, and be free from JavaScript or SSL/TLS/HTTPS elements" No HTTPS? Really??
Facebook does NOT have to follow this rule today in its zero-rated India service. https://developers.facebook.com/docs/internet-org/platform-t... > Your service will be proxied by Internet.org. Since we cannot support SSL, TLS, or HTTPS as part of proxying, your content or service should not rely on passing or collecting encrypted information — resources that do so will not be accessible within Internet.org or will b…
Since they're just proxying, it makes sense to abandon encryption all together, not? I mean after all, HTTPS is supposed to protect from man-in-the-middle attacks, but aren't they themselves exactly that?