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I'm pretty sure lots of people do this.
So that makes it okay?
I don't see that being implied by the parent comment.
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
So that makes it okay?
I don't know if it's okay, but it is a fact that celebrities and common folk are held to different public standards. This has been true since the days of village gossiping to the present where countless publications exist for the sole purpose of serving as trash rags and yellow tabloids on the private lives of high-profile public figures, going day by day without significant legal troubles.
"I don't know if it's OK"
Here's your answer then. It's not, and it never will be.
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#93Why is it so hard for twitter to implement some optional filter for this stuff? You have a complete history of a users tweets and a record of how long the person has been active, number of followers, textual analysis of the tweets, block/mute status with respect to other people, whether you follow ect. It seems like it should be really easy for twitter to put messages into a spam/harassment folder, never to be seen b…
Really easy?
...Really?
Edit: Not only would this alter a core and fundamental aspect of how Twitter currently operates but it would certainly be non-trivial to implement in an unobtrusive manner.
Who wants what blocked? Is there a generic 'spam/abuse' filter? Is it on by default? Are those tweets put into a spam/abuse section or entirely unviewable. What happens when someone sends a tweet that is blocked by the filter, are they notified?
Try to clearly define what metrics/identifiers you would use to determine a tweet is offensive and should be blocked and then call this implementation trivial.
Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls
#94People who get caught doing this need to be prosecuted, and if convicted, labeled as sexual criminals and placed on a register. Employers should be able to see the kinds of people they are employing or about to employ. As a father myself, this kind of behaviour makes me sick and I cannot understand people who feel they need to defend these kinds of sick comments.
Sexual criminals? really? for words on twitter? There is no question that this kind of behavior is repugnant, but should it really be illegal? The tweets I read are abhorrent, but hardly credible threats. To me, the best kind of sanction for this is exactly what's happening: social shaming and exclusion. But it falls quite a bit short of something that requires legal involvement.
I totally agree, the right course of action here is just good ol' fashioned public shaming. There's really no reason to bring the judicial system into this as it would be very taxing on that system to prosecute this type of behavior.
A good deterrent to making these kind of public comments is the social pressure of others around you knowing that you in fact act/think this horrible way.
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Too many people seem to think they are the moral authority on what reprocussions are appropriate.
Not at all. Should you not be free to hire and fire your employees depending on who you want to represent your company? Or are you advocating some sort of affirmative action for asshats?
You're totally right. If I managed a team of employees and I saw this in the news the next day, there's no way I would keep that person employed.
On an unrelated note, I think you win the best username award :P
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What would happen to someone who made comments like these about Obama's daughters?
They wouldn't expect to make international news by being mentioned in a blog post from the president, that's for sure.
Just a visit to their employer by the Secret Service. Don't think it hasn't happened, it once happened to a Kuro5hin contributor.
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#97Too bad he doesn't go into how he managed to track the 9 people down who he called out. Was he able to do it because he is a famous baseball player and has the resources and connections to make it happen or is it something any normal person on the street can do to stand up for themselves?
Most of these people, I'm sure, had their real name on the account, or had their account linked to from some page with their real name, so Googling for their handle would easily find it. At that point, as he mentioned, many of these people were college athletes, so their names would also show up on rosters and various campus newspaper accounts of games. While it is possible to harass anonymously if you try, it's pret…
What's kind of chilling and awful is the thinking apparently at work: "I want to get a rise out of this guy, so I'll make repeated menacing/disgusting sexual remarks about his teen daughter."
On what planet is that ok?
Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls
#98Famous people leach fame into others by interacting with them. The easiest way to force someone to interact with you is to hit them somewhere vulnerable. Mr Schilling either wasn't aware of his vulnerability or hoped that it wouldn't be exploited. When it did get exploited, he didn't try to hide it, leaving a gaping wound for even more famewhores to leech fame from him. It worked, because I saw their tweets and I'm n…
This is coming perilously close to victim blaming. When these horrible tweets are made, there's always a contingent who says that the target should ignore them. You probably should if they are completely anonymous. But if they aren't - have at 'em!
Can you help me to understand victim blaming? Is it victim blaming to say someone was exercising poor risk management?
I think of taking precautions online as being like defensive driving (or any kind of risk management really). If Alice gets sideswiped on the highway because Bob was on his cell phone and didn't check his blind spot, Bob maybe gets charged with failure to maintain the lane or something like that. Doesn't Alice share some responsibility by recognizing that Bob, being on his cell phone, posed an elevated risk and managing accordingly (say by changing to a more distant lane)?
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Unfortunately, the goal of prosecuting threats is to prevent violence, not prevent people from being scared. If the chance of violence is relatively nil, (I already argued that I believe these guys are just terrible, wanna-be comedians) I don't think there is any case to be made that these guys are anything near sexual predators, just assholes and scumbags.
The goal of prosecuting threats is because threats are violence, or at least are damaging in and of themselves. Threats are also illegal under 18 U.S. Code § 875(c). Even if there was no intent to carry out the threat, if the threat can be interpreted by a reasonable person as being intended to cause fear, it counts as a true threat. [1] [1] https://verdict.justia.com/2014/12/10/supreme-court-consider...
Thank you. I was about to make a similar comment. Threats are intimidation, and a form of violence.
Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls
#100Somewhat related, a UK boxer tracked down a twitter troll, and it worked.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1563667-boxer-curtis-wood...
Of course, this is not a practical answer as we'd have everyone driving around everyday trying to locate assholes, but I can't help but feel good about the troll being exposed as a coward. Like in those fight videos where the bully gets it. I hate watching fights, hate watching real-life violence, but the bully getting what he deserves is an exception.