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Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by japhyr »

crazypyro wrote: post #9
junto wrote: post #2

People who get caught doing this need to be prosecuted, and if convicted, labeled as sexual criminals and placed on a register. Employers should be able to see the kinds of people they are employing or about to employ. As a father myself, this kind of behaviour makes me sick and I cannot understand people who feel they need to defend these kinds of sick comments.

Behavior is obviously not right, but is it really harming someone else's rights? I'm having a hard time jumping from sexual innuendos to sexual predators... I think it would be a massive mistake to try to make into a crime. Although many of these tweets clearly cross the line of tastelessness, how many sexual jokes/innuendos are less obvious and more controversial about whether they are tasteless? We don't need to cr…

These are not innuendos, these are threats.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by benihana »

senorprogrammer wrote: post #4
junto wrote: post #2

People who get caught doing this need to be prosecuted, and if convicted, labeled as sexual criminals and placed on a register. Employers should be able to see the kinds of people they are employing or about to employ. As a father myself, this kind of behaviour makes me sick and I cannot understand people who feel they need to defend these kinds of sick comments.

Too many people seem to misunderstand that 'freedom of speech' does not mean 'freedom from repercussions'. Pretty glad to read jobs had been lost as a result of this.

Too many people seem to justify their lynch ochlocratic actions on the internet by saying "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from repercussions."

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by DownvoteMeToWin »

graeme wrote: post #6
DownvoteMeToWin wrote: post #3

As a father, I have warned my daughter about the Ring of Gyges. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Gyges Look, at the end of the day, it's pixels. You can't even prove that posters are humans or robots on Twitter. Taking umbrage over a Turing-suspicious medium reeks of middle class moral panic and, in my opinion, has no business being on HN.

>You can't even prove that posters are humans or robots on Twitter. Did you read the article? Schilling found at least nine real humans. They've been suspended or fired. Some will go to jail. They were real men making sexual threats to his daughter, thinking they were anonymous. They weren't. Lots of women online face threats like Schilling's daughter received. Women in the tech industry face stuff like this. I'd say…

And did you read the article with the precise number of "people" doing this?

Oh, thats right. No number on that.

But let's celebrate the "justice" of 9 people and their mean pixels being stopped forever. Every human being on the internet gets harassed and if you read about the Ring of Gyges before spouting MSNBC memes for HN points, you'd know why.

Stop your puritanical crusade. No one will care after 2016.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by mbrutsch »

junto wrote: post #2

People who get caught doing this need to be prosecuted, and if convicted, labeled as sexual criminals and placed on a register. Employers should be able to see the kinds of people they are employing or about to employ. As a father myself, this kind of behaviour makes me sick and I cannot understand people who feel they need to defend these kinds of sick comments.

Schilling is just being a crybaby, and you are flat insane. Man up, for Christ's sake, and stop being little babies!

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by japhyr »

senorprogrammer wrote: post #4
junto wrote: post #2

People who get caught doing this need to be prosecuted, and if convicted, labeled as sexual criminals and placed on a register. Employers should be able to see the kinds of people they are employing or about to employ. As a father myself, this kind of behaviour makes me sick and I cannot understand people who feel they need to defend these kinds of sick comments.

Too many people seem to misunderstand that 'freedom of speech' does not mean 'freedom from repercussions'. Pretty glad to read jobs had been lost as a result of this.

Also, I believe a person's freedom of speech ends when speech creates a real threat to another person's safety. These kinds of tweets definitely create a threat to the recipient's safety.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by DownvoteMeToWin »

InclinedPlane wrote: post #10
DownvoteMeToWin wrote: post #3

As a father, I have warned my daughter about the Ring of Gyges. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Gyges Look, at the end of the day, it's pixels. You can't even prove that posters are humans or robots on Twitter. Taking umbrage over a Turing-suspicious medium reeks of middle class moral panic and, in my opinion, has no business being on HN.

We live our lives online today, these are our methods of communication. These are the ways we keep up on the news, do our work, keep in touch with our friends and family, indulge our interests and passions, relax, etc. This whole "sticks and stones..." mentality is poisonous. There is no wall, no chasm, no separation between "the real world" and "the online world" the internet is just a medium of communication for co…

>There is no wall, no chasm, no separation between "the real world" and "the online world"

Like I said, middle class moral panic.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by crazypyro »

japhyr wrote: post #11
crazypyro wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Behavior is obviously not right, but is it really harming someone else's rights? I'm having a hard time jumping from sexual innuendos to sexual predators... I think it would be a massive mistake to try to make into a crime. Although many of these tweets clearly cross the line of tastelessness, how many sexual jokes/innuendos are less obvious and more controversial about whether they are tasteless? We don't need to cr…

These are not innuendos, these are threats.

Oh give me a break... the most offensive/threatening one that was posted by Kurt on his blog was:

"Teach me your knuckleball technique so I can fist your daughter"

You really think this is a creditable threat of violence and not someone trying to make a very, very, very poor taste joke? There are very few tweets I would even consider threats, most were just scumbags trying to get some twitter fame by making terrible baseball sexual innuendos.

There are other ones like "Kurt bleeds more from his sock than gaby does when shes on her period" that in no way could even be construed as a threat, but I feel they are getting lumped into the same category, simply because they are distasteful.

Re: Curt Schilling Fights Back Against Daughter’s Twitter Trolls

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Post by xorcist »

DownvoteMeToWin wrote: post #5
senorprogrammer wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too many people seem to misunderstand that 'freedom of speech' does not mean 'freedom from repercussions'. Pretty glad to read jobs had been lost as a result of this.

Too many people seem to think they are the moral authority on what reprocussions are appropriate.

Not at all. Should you not be free to hire and fire your employees depending on who you want to represent your company? Or are you advocating some sort of affirmative action for asshats?
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