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Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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As someone pointed out in another thread, we're ruled by algorithms now and have been for quite some time. Tinder itself is based on a human processed algorithm: IF ((I think that he/she is hot) && (he/she thinks I am hot)) THEN date(); The good thing about computer algorithms is that we can open them up and see how they work. Like, y'know, hackers. This program is doing the same basic task as a person would, "Look a…

Maybe you want to look into the 'Psycho Pass' series for some illustration of the risks.

Don't use the brains of criminals in your computer. Problem solved.

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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It's surprising to see that the Messaging bot actually worked out pretty well (according to the author) given the fact that StanfordNLP's sentiment analysis really sucks sometime. Probably because the initial chat messages are very similar and generic.

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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This phenomenon is endemic to dating culture in general. It's strange that the large majority of young Western women who have ridiculously fickle preferences, don't have the insight to realize the consequences of their behavior (or even notice the behavior in the first place). It makes the experience bad for 90% of the participants. Not a bad thought to have separate interfaces by gender, maybe there is something in…

The standard perception is that women are scarce and men are dime-a-dozen. I strongly suspect this might be true even in the gay dating scene (maybe someone qualified might weigh in on this hunch). Like in many social conventions, this scheme kind-of works as long as you subscribe to it. Men are supposed to be undiscerning, women are supposed to reject people like it's a bodily function. As long as you fall within th…

I think my comment came across as saying something other than what I intended (-4 at the moment). What I mean by "shitty gender stereotypes" is that, as you say, everyone is expected to conform to this model (guys and women alike). Under this stereotypical model, the pace is dictated by the women, which is why I singled this out - but of course it's a two-way evolution of behavior.

"Kind-of-works as long as you subscribe to it" would be a good interpretation, but I think everyone's opportunities are diminished by this. One thing is finding someone to have sex with or have a relationship of the type that society expects (which probably works well enough on a societal level with stereotypical dating), but finding someone you are really compatible with on a deep level is a different question. My strong suspicion is that there are many lost opportunities in the latter category.

At this point I am incredibly happy with my life partner, but I've previously had many bad experiences with the traditional dating model. Since everyone is complaining and gender norms are the one fixed variable, it stands to reason that this is where the problem is. The LGBT community does not have this problem, which I think is caused by a greater awareness of the roles each person takes. Heteronormative gender roles are problematic, which is evidenced both in complaints about dating and divorce statistics.

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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Looking forward to attending a wedding where the How We Met story is, "Through a Tinder Eigenface k-nearest neighbor machine-learning algorithm."

Well, it wouldn't be without precedent exactly. "Operation Match" dates back to the sixties. [1][2]

[1]: http://blog.modernmechanix.com/boy-girl-computer/

[2]: http://thecomputerboys.com/?p=654

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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How many of you folks have found a long lasting, good quality date via Tinder? Serious question, no pun intended. For me, albeit using it for only cca 6 months, it was useless. Same for people around me.

Yes, I got tons of likes, many conversations, a few dates that could be more if wanted, but women available via this were mostly... uninteresting. I am a bit picky (I am quite sporty type, and silicone beauties whose idea of perfect sunday is basically doing nothing while showered in luxury repulse me). Never been looking for one night stands or similar, that's for poor folks with daddy (and other) issues. Those kind of "relationships" tend to take more from person than give, and after some time, meeting such a person is rather sad story (or, more blatantly who wants to seriously date slutty used opposite sex).

Well, once you've got things to offer to women that they want, you can, and will be picky. I kept telling myself, it's just another way of meeting people, like all others. But for me, tinder crowd ain't doing the "game" seriously enough. Maybe location didn't help (Geneva, on border with France, and to be polite general French mentality towards relationships ain't compatible with mine).

So I found amazing girl via other ways (climbing), dropped whole tinder app into oblivion. Nice idea, and kudos to this guy for really getting max out of concept, but not for me. And seeing success rate around me, just going to a stupid bar, dressing nicely and just be a man women want gives you way more reward for any effort. But it cannot be done from couch, can it :)

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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How many of you folks have found a long lasting, good quality date via Tinder? Serious question, no pun intended. For me, albeit using it for only cca 6 months, it was useless. Same for people around me. Yes, I got tons of likes, many conversations, a few dates that could be more if wanted, but women available via this were mostly... uninteresting. I am a bit picky (I am quite sporty type, and silicone beauties whose…

To quote /r/ShowerThoughts: "The problem with Tinder is that you only meet people who are at a point in their lives where Tinder makes sense"

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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How does this take boobs into consideration ?!

I love how this is a perfectly valid question given the context .. even if the phrasing may be somewhat off. Back to topic, I'd think boobs (and other parts of the body that aren't part of the face) won't have much impact on prefrences. Would you really reject someone because of their cup size, despite their pretty face? Similary, would you accept someone just because of their cup size despite their less-than-pretty…

Why shouldn't cup size be important to many people?

"Would you really reject someone because of their face, despite their excellent cup size? Similary, would you accept someone just because of their face despite their less-than-excellent cup size?"

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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How many of you folks have found a long lasting, good quality date via Tinder? Serious question, no pun intended. For me, albeit using it for only cca 6 months, it was useless. Same for people around me. Yes, I got tons of likes, many conversations, a few dates that could be more if wanted, but women available via this were mostly... uninteresting. I am a bit picky (I am quite sporty type, and silicone beauties whose…

To quote /r/ShowerThoughts: "The problem with Tinder is that you only meet people who are at a point in their lives where Tinder makes sense"

Indeed, very true. There is always naive hope for the odd one, and I am sure for many it is. But then again, there are quite a few very compatible partners out there, for most of us. All the magic is about meeting them somehow, in right time.

Re: Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you want to look into the 'Psycho Pass' series for some illustration of the risks.

Don't use the brains of criminals in your computer. Problem solved.

That's nowhere near the only problem with Psycho-pass's society.
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