All were in agreement that it is not creepy, though some felt it was borderline It definitely is creepy, though.
How? It isn't invading anyone's privacy or personal space. The actions the bot performs are exactly the same as what humans do.
Automating Tinder with Eigenfaces
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish I could work myself up into some kind of indignation, but what I really believe is this: if you willingly submit yourself to the cesspits of human banality (i.e. Facebook, Tinder and all the likes), you pretty much deserve all the crap that will be unloaded on you.
So there's the dystopia. The humans become the nearly identical constantly replaceable consumable that the algorithms steer across a dozen generations, mating them and connecting them together to father the algorithms' own silicon ends whatever those happen to turn out to be. I hope they don't like paperclips.
>identical constantly replaceable consumable that the algorithms steer across a dozen generations, mating them and connecting them together to father the algorithms' own silicon ends
Surprisingly precise description of life (up to sillicon / carbon substitution)
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#23Looking forward to attending a wedding where the How We Met story is, "Through a Tinder Eigenface k-nearest neighbor machine-learning algorithm."
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#24Probably the only bot that would appeal to women with its preference setting. It's mostly guys using the bots and filtering after the matches. Love reading the Tinder app reviews: "this thing is broken, been using it for a week and no matches. I ain't that ugly." I always thought Tinder could monetize by having auto swipe and an undo option.
This phenomenon is endemic to dating culture in general. It's strange that the large majority of young Western women who have ridiculously fickle preferences, don't have the insight to realize the consequences of their behavior (or even notice the behavior in the first place). It makes the experience bad for 90% of the participants. Not a bad thought to have separate interfaces by gender, maybe there is something in…
> This phenomenon is endemic to dating culture in general. It's strange that the large majority of young Western women who have ridiculously fickle preferences, don't have the insight to realize the consequences of their behavior (or even notice the behavior in the first place). It makes the experience bad for 90% of the participants.
There are no words.
Let me see if I understand you correctly. The consequence of women, who are too stupid to know better, having dating preferences, is that your Tinder experience isn't optimal. Is that what you're saying?
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#25I feel the human race has made a rather amusing step forward to rule-by-algorithm. 30 years ago this would be dystopian, today its a byproduct of a mish-mash of open source libraries.
As someone pointed out in another thread, we're ruled by algorithms now and have been for quite some time. Tinder itself is based on a human processed algorithm:
IF ((I think that he/she is hot) && (he/she thinks I am hot))
THEN
date();
I do understand why people don't like it. Everyone feels that an algorithm could screw them over in a situation where a person wouldn't. It's the driverless car argument. And we all know the response, that humans aren't perfect either and we have better metrics and tools for understanding and fixing machine mistakes than we do human mistakes. The same is true for algorithms that control Tinder, credit applications, health insurance rates, et al. They aren't always right and it does suck when you can't make an appeal to human compassion. But humans can be just as wrong and just as obstinate, if not moreso. At least with an algorithm you know where you stand.
I, for one, welcome our algorithmic overlords. As a hacker I've always been able to figure out how technical systems work. Other humans? Not so much. If anything, this new world will play to my strengths and to the strengths of those like me.
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#26I feel the human race has made a rather amusing step forward to rule-by-algorithm. 30 years ago this would be dystopian, today its a byproduct of a mish-mash of open source libraries.
As someone pointed out in another thread, we're ruled by algorithms now and have been for quite some time. Tinder itself is based on a human processed algorithm: IF ((I think that he/she is hot) && (he/she thinks I am hot)) THEN date(); The good thing about computer algorithms is that we can open them up and see how they work. Like, y'know, hackers. This program is doing the same basic task as a person would, "Look a…
Gahh, close your if statement man.
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#27All were in agreement that it is not creepy, though some felt it was borderline It definitely is creepy, though.
How? It isn't invading anyone's privacy or personal space. The actions the bot performs are exactly the same as what humans do.
>exactly the same
That's why. People take pleasure in expressing base instinctive behavior (and Tinder is mate choosing, refined to laboratory grade purity), but like to pretend it's something more dignified, not something that can be done by basic machine, be it organic or semiconductor.
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#28How does this take boobs into consideration ?!
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#29How does this take boobs into consideration ?!
This is a very important question, indeed.
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#30I think that what you like is average.. therefore you will like the average.. as expected. If everyone will use a bot like this then only the beautiful girls will receive likes. Pointless. If only you will use the bot then you will have a certain advantage over others. This remembers me a guy that was a mathematician and found his wife with math. Was on another dating site. I never used tinder.
Since Tinder already shows you almost nothing else but photos, we are already in the situation you describe. OTOH, there's always a gradient, not everyone can have the prettiest girls.