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Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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Re: Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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The public /22 (1024 IPs) that is used by North Korea is widely known now, so it is bad form to assume the US is behind this attack. Heck, a 14 year old with a few bots could take down their whole country. This outage won't hurt North Korea. At best it makes for a good head line to see the whole country offline. At worst this means that their elite citizens cannot access social networks or email outside of their coun…

Compared to the very real, physical threat to South Korea, the fate of a movie company is small potatoes to the U.S. government.

What the U.S. needs most from North Korea is information; they're not going to burn exploits and vulnerabilities for a simple DDOS. If anything, they want North Korea to be more online, where it's easier for the NSA to collect information.

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Or it could be an actual false flag operation by the US to instigate something.... Something is very weird about their attitude towards north korea regarding this break in.

The US is not going to go to War with North Korea. So I don't know what they could 'instigate' that would be worth this much effort.

Technically speaking, that's correct, one cannot begin something that is already ongoing.

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The US is not going to go to War with North Korea. So I don't know what they could 'instigate' that would be worth this much effort.

Technically speaking, that's correct, one cannot begin something that is already ongoing.

Oops.

Not going to go even more to war, then.

Re: Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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Obama already calibrated the governments stance on this ordeal when he said the Sony hack was vandalism and NOT terrorism. I don't believe the government being responsible for NK's internet problems is in line with that. He also seemed to believe that the fault for any censorship as a result of the hack lies squarely within the US.

IMO it lies squarely with the FBI who wouldn't say it was not a credible threat. If you come to the FBI with a threat, and they say that it's credible, what are you going to do next?

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A) The NSA told them. B) The CIA told them. Pick one.

C) The Iraq War WMD-dossier-fairy told them.

Pretty sure they recently confirmed a great deal of WMD was found in Iraq...

[1] http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/uranium-shipped-to-montreal-fro... [2] http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleea...

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What is it with old people and their complete inability to understand Anonymous? If you did that, you wouldn't be acting like "them", you would be part of Anonymous.

That's the entire point. Anyone attributing an action to "them" inherently wrong in doing so. "Because Anonymous has no leadership, no action can be attributed to the membership as a whole. Parmy Olson and others have criticized media coverage that presents the group as well-organized or homogeneous." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29 )

That quote and the wikipedia article it comes from are both misguided because they still describe Anonymous as a group.

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What is it with old people and their complete inability to understand Anonymous? If you did that, you wouldn't be acting like "them", you would be part of Anonymous.

the thing I don't get is it's literally in their name, that this is not a group but just some random people on the internet. The idea that it's one group just comes from how 4chan talks about anonymous people with slight lingo, making it sound like a group from an outsider.

It's not "in their name". There is no "them" and there is no name.

Re: Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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This is occurring after the hacker group who claimed the attack (Guardians of Peace), sent the FBI a letter thanking them for blaming North Korea, calling the FBI the best (sic), and linked to a youtube video that called the FBI "an idiot".[1] [1] http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/22/world/asia/north-korea-us-sony...

Did anyone else hear "America, fuck yeah!" after the last paragraph of that CNN article?

"Yes, let's go out and get all the republicans (the unintentional irony of the GOP supporting the movie notwithstanding) to buy tickets to see this movie to show those foreigners that when terrorists try to scare us, we just buy a bunch of useless shit."

Perhaps one of the dumbest things I've heard in response to this situation yet.

Sorry - I know I'm fairly new as a commenter (long time listener, nearly-first time caller!), and my karma may take a nosedive for this one. I just couldn't hold this one inside.

Re: Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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Or this could be some kind of reverse false flag operation (a soccer flop?) to give NK a platform to escalate some other negotiation point...

Or it could be an actual false flag operation by the US to instigate something.... Something is very weird about their attitude towards north korea regarding this break in.

You know, it can't be a false flag until there's actually a flag. Has anyone claimed responsibility for doing this yet?
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