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Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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Re: Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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Post by Alupis »

downandout wrote: post #7

I suspect this to be the work of the US government, but out of curiosity I wonder if there would be any legal consequences were Sony or another private party to launch a DDOS attack on North Korea from the US. Obviously no one would be extradited to NK, but I'm curious if that would run afoul of US law. If not, it might be fun to create some software or a mobile app that would keep this going indefinitely. I imagine…

> I suspect this to be the work of the US government

If true, the backlash could be significant. There's already large portions of the world trying to de-centralize the internet from the US (routing around, etc) after the Snowden leaks and discoveries of egregious abuses of power over the internet by the US government. No single country should have the capability (or right) to knock an entire other country off the internet, North Korea or not...

Re: Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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Post by luftderfreiheit »

What fascinating times we live in.

My interpretation of the general history of warfare is that countries agree on restraint once some situation has occurred that all sides agree should never happen again. Mustard gas in WWI, nuclear weapons in WWII...

Hopefully this doesn't spiral out of control. It's not clear where the boundaries are that we don't want to cross.

Re: Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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Post by eyeareque »

The public /22 (1024 IPs) that is used by North Korea is widely known now, so it is bad form to assume the US is behind this attack. Heck, a 14 year old with a few bots could take down their whole country.

This outage won't hurt North Korea. At best it makes for a good head line to see the whole country offline. At worst this means that their elite citizens cannot access social networks or email outside of their country.

I really hope this isn't the doing's of the US government. You'd hope they could do better than this..

Re: Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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Post by [deleted] »

Alupis wrote: post #11
downandout wrote: post #7

I suspect this to be the work of the US government, but out of curiosity I wonder if there would be any legal consequences were Sony or another private party to launch a DDOS attack on North Korea from the US. Obviously no one would be extradited to NK, but I'm curious if that would run afoul of US law. If not, it might be fun to create some software or a mobile app that would keep this going indefinitely. I imagine…

> I suspect this to be the work of the US government If true, the backlash could be significant. There's already large portions of the world trying to de-centralize the internet from the US (routing around, etc) after the Snowden leaks and discoveries of egregious abuses of power over the internet by the US government. No single country should have the capability (or right) to knock an entire other country off the in…

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Re: Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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Post by free2rhyme214 »

Alupis wrote: post #11
downandout wrote: post #7

I suspect this to be the work of the US government, but out of curiosity I wonder if there would be any legal consequences were Sony or another private party to launch a DDOS attack on North Korea from the US. Obviously no one would be extradited to NK, but I'm curious if that would run afoul of US law. If not, it might be fun to create some software or a mobile app that would keep this going indefinitely. I imagine…

> I suspect this to be the work of the US government If true, the backlash could be significant. There's already large portions of the world trying to de-centralize the internet from the US (routing around, etc) after the Snowden leaks and discoveries of egregious abuses of power over the internet by the US government. No single country should have the capability (or right) to knock an entire other country off the in…

I think you don't understand how powerful the US military really is.

We take down governments in our sleep and replace them with our own puppets.

Re: Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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Post by jmnicolas »

Of course, NK won't be pissed at all and they're not going to retaliate at all (yeah I know it's probably the goal of this attack).

This might be the first steps of the first cyber world war for all I know.

The only good thing is that only the elite will be affected by the collapse of NK Internet (no porn for a while). The average citizen probably can't even grasp what the net is, and none of her life is linked to it.

Re: Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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Post by burnstek »

Alupis wrote: post #11
downandout wrote: post #7

I suspect this to be the work of the US government, but out of curiosity I wonder if there would be any legal consequences were Sony or another private party to launch a DDOS attack on North Korea from the US. Obviously no one would be extradited to NK, but I'm curious if that would run afoul of US law. If not, it might be fun to create some software or a mobile app that would keep this going indefinitely. I imagine…

> I suspect this to be the work of the US government If true, the backlash could be significant. There's already large portions of the world trying to de-centralize the internet from the US (routing around, etc) after the Snowden leaks and discoveries of egregious abuses of power over the internet by the US government. No single country should have the capability (or right) to knock an entire other country off the in…

The US has a lot more capability than that. Wrong or right, the US (and many other countries) could knock North Korea from the map entirely. Lives are much more important than Internet access.

Re: Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses

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Post by unreal37 »

eyeareque wrote: post #13

The public /22 (1024 IPs) that is used by North Korea is widely known now, so it is bad form to assume the US is behind this attack. Heck, a 14 year old with a few bots could take down their whole country. This outage won't hurt North Korea. At best it makes for a good head line to see the whole country offline. At worst this means that their elite citizens cannot access social networks or email outside of their coun…

Most likely it's some 14 year old with a small bot network. Or they decided to unplug their router for a week or two to have a bit of a Christmas break from the hassle of maintaining it, since it doesn't harm them in any way.
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