Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux

Post by pjmlp » Sun, Dec 21, 2014, 7:58 PM UTC

sparkie wrote: post #34

callesgg wrote: post #32

Title is a bit misleading this seams mainly like a form of shell, comparing it to Torvals linux kernel or unix seams wierd. As a shell however i feel it is a interesting change of perspective.

The shell is what you see, but there's a full OS underneath it, including a window manager and whatnot. You can reprogram any part of the OS dynamically from this shell, which is the main point Terry is trying to make - it's an OS aimed at hackers who he thinks should have 100% control over the system down to the hardware - and he has a novel way of enabling that to happen with an interpreter and JIT compiler for his…

Post by cbd1984 » Sun, Dec 21, 2014, 8:11 PM UTC

nyolfen wrote: post #36

pekk wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you leave out the parts that are inconvenient to the narrative you're making up? "Europe should be blue" - is that racist? I guess the technical achievement means nothing. Where is your certificate of political correctness? Why is it socially acceptable to bully like this?

it isn't inconvenient to the narrative, though it might not be immediately obvious https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_blood calling out racism isn't bullying and it's incoherent to label it as such, davis has a long history of racist ranting much more offensive than labeling africa black. he's mentally ill and it's sad but it's not to be overlooked

Post by drivingmenuts » Sun, Dec 21, 2014, 8:36 PM UTC

throwaway3343 wrote: post #39

cloakandswagger wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say we've pretty much gone full circle. Suffocating levels of political correctness alongside a self-obsessed victim culture have made a lot of people sympathetic to the trope of the outrageous, out of touch savant.

I admit it's hard to balance the approaches behind "He's just a troubled person," "He's a raving nut," "He's a raving nut, but so what?" and so on.

Post by pizza » Sun, Dec 21, 2014, 9:08 PM UTC

hnriot wrote: post #27

pekk wrote: post #24

Most of us will never use TempleOS, few will appreciate the skill shown here and fewer will understand Davis' religious goals. But you could also look at TempleOS as a research prototype, roughly the kind of thing which once might have been produced at Xerox PARC, and see that TempleOS implements some startlingly interesting ideas. For example, in this demo, the way that graphics are treated inline with source text a…

comparing this to IPython Notebook is a big stretch and an insult to MATLAB and IPython notebook. There's no way this would have ever come out of PARC, you're exaggerating Davis's work. Also, it's impossible to "look past the religious stuff" - it's part of, all of TempleOS. To me this is just a crazy guy who's been tinkering with 80s technology while the rest of the world has moved on. I feel bad for him , but I jus…

Post by digi_owl » Sun, Dec 21, 2014, 9:18 PM UTC

jdiez17 wrote: post #13

This is a feature I'd actually really like to have in an actual terminal. The ability to display graphics would be useful for many things.