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Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux

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Post by cloakandswagger »

dubfan wrote: post #28
pekk wrote: post #24

Most of us will never use TempleOS, few will appreciate the skill shown here and fewer will understand Davis' religious goals. But you could also look at TempleOS as a research prototype, roughly the kind of thing which once might have been produced at Xerox PARC, and see that TempleOS implements some startlingly interesting ideas. For example, in this demo, the way that graphics are treated inline with source text a…

I don't think anyone here is trying to tear Davis down. It's just that his writings can reflect poorly on our community as a whole to those who aren't familiar with his circumstances. In the current climate of hit-piece, shoot-first-ask-questions-never outrage journalism, for which the straw man of the out-of-touch privileged techie is a favorite punching bag, you can't be too careful.

I'd say we've pretty much gone full circle.

Suffocating levels of political correctness alongside a self-obsessed victim culture have made a lot of people sympathetic to the trope of the outrageous, out of touch savant.

Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux

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Post by 101914 »

There is one point in this demonstration where it looks like TempleOS is monitoring the registers in "real-time".

It looked like in one column he had the names of the registers and in the other column the memory addresses stored in them, updating on the screen as he worked.

Is this what I was seeing or am I mistaken?

The OS also seems to track what each CPU is doing in the scrolling banners; and there was a brief view of a screen that showed detailed swap statistics, again changing in "real-time".

Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux

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Post by sparkie »

callesgg wrote: post #32

Title is a bit misleading this seams mainly like a form of shell, comparing it to Torvals linux kernel or unix seams wierd. As a shell however i feel it is a interesting change of perspective.

The shell is what you see, but there's a full OS underneath it, including a window manager and whatnot. You can reprogram any part of the OS dynamically from this shell, which is the main point Terry is trying to make - it's an OS aimed at hackers who he thinks should have 100% control over the system down to the hardware - and he has a novel way of enabling that to happen with an interpreter and JIT compiler for his dialect of C, and a single memory space for all "processes".

Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux

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Post by sparkie »

101914 wrote: post #33

There is one point in this demonstration where it looks like TempleOS is monitoring the registers in "real-time". It looked like in one column he had the names of the registers and in the other column the memory addresses stored in them, updating on the screen as he worked. Is this what I was seeing or am I mistaken? The OS also seems to track what each CPU is doing in the scrolling banners; and there was a brief vie…

The values displayed are retrieved each time the window is redrawn, which might be each time he moves the cursor or at a set frame-rate. It obviously doesn't detect changes in memory then print those changes on screen immediately.

Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux

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Post by nyolfen »

pekk wrote: post #10
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #5

"So now we're gonna put colors in. North America should be red, like Native Americans, [...] Asia should be yellow, [...] and Africa should be black."

Why did you leave out the parts that are inconvenient to the narrative you're making up? "Europe should be blue" - is that racist? I guess the technical achievement means nothing. Where is your certificate of political correctness? Why is it socially acceptable to bully like this?

it isn't inconvenient to the narrative, though it might not be immediately obvious

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_blood

calling out racism isn't bullying and it's incoherent to label it as such, davis has a long history of racist ranting much more offensive than labeling africa black. he's mentally ill and it's sad but it's not to be overlooked

Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux

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Post by jmhain »

gh02t wrote: post #14
jdiez17 wrote: post #13

This is a feature I'd actually really like to have in an actual terminal. The ability to display graphics would be useful for many things.

There are several that do it, this article mentions a few and shows how to do it in xterm. http://www.stenyak.com/archives/1208/trick-of-the-day-render... Not mentioned in that article, there's also Terminology, which can display all sorts of dynamic media and things. https://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/terminology

It's a shame nothing ever came of TermKit.

http://acko.net/blog/on-termkit/

Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux

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Post by throwaway3343 »

dubfan wrote: post #28
pekk wrote: post #24

Most of us will never use TempleOS, few will appreciate the skill shown here and fewer will understand Davis' religious goals. But you could also look at TempleOS as a research prototype, roughly the kind of thing which once might have been produced at Xerox PARC, and see that TempleOS implements some startlingly interesting ideas. For example, in this demo, the way that graphics are treated inline with source text a…

I don't think anyone here is trying to tear Davis down. It's just that his writings can reflect poorly on our community as a whole to those who aren't familiar with his circumstances. In the current climate of hit-piece, shoot-first-ask-questions-never outrage journalism, for which the straw man of the out-of-touch privileged techie is a favorite punching bag, you can't be too careful.

As someone stridently critical of this community, the way people like you approach Davis reflects more poorly on the community than the presence of an individual with religious mania--especially if you contrast religious mania and greedy mania.

Reputation, reputation, reputation--often that's all this place seems to think about.

Obviously I'm broadly generalizing from what you might have intended to be a considerate comment.

But the masses of homeless in San Francisco are mostly ignored by the tech community, perhaps because it's easier on the mind to squelch with a hellban.

Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux

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Post by throwaway3343 »

cloakandswagger wrote: post #31
dubfan wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think anyone here is trying to tear Davis down. It's just that his writings can reflect poorly on our community as a whole to those who aren't familiar with his circumstances. In the current climate of hit-piece, shoot-first-ask-questions-never outrage journalism, for which the straw man of the out-of-touch privileged techie is a favorite punching bag, you can't be too careful.

I'd say we've pretty much gone full circle. Suffocating levels of political correctness alongside a self-obsessed victim culture have made a lot of people sympathetic to the trope of the outrageous, out of touch savant.

I admit it's hard to balance the approaches behind "He's just a troubled person," "He's a raving nut," "He's a raving nut, but so what?" and so on.

Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux

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Post by rb2k_ »

After reading a bit in the reddit comment history, I think I'll just ignore him and his projects from now on:

http://www.reddit.com/r/TempleOS_Official/comments/2pfp2j/th...

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> God is not PRNG. I wish there weren't so many niggers who think all random number are PRNG. These nigger seriosuly don't know you can get non-PRNG numbers, but true random.

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