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Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux
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Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux
#22Has Davis ever explained why he believes that his operating system is a holy relic, an artifact particularly close to God? And if so, which part of it is holy - the contents of the filesystem, the state of the runtime, or both?
Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux
#23This is a feature I'd actually really like to have in an actual terminal. The ability to display graphics would be useful for many things.
There are several that do it, this article mentions a few and shows how to do it in xterm. http://www.stenyak.com/archives/1208/trick-of-the-day-render... Not mentioned in that article, there's also Terminology, which can display all sorts of dynamic media and things. https://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/terminology
I remember there used to be a DVI viewer for xterm's tektronix mode. It would render the fonts by drawing a sequence of horizontal lines for runs of pixels.
Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux
#24Most of us will never use TempleOS, few will appreciate the skill shown here and fewer will understand Davis' religious goals.
But you could also look at TempleOS as a research prototype, roughly the kind of thing which once might have been produced at Xerox PARC, and see that TempleOS implements some startlingly interesting ideas.
For example, in this demo, the way that graphics are treated inline with source text and text in the terminal, and the way that definitions are updated everywhere they're used might seem arbitrary or crazy if you don't think about it. Is this thing just for games? Once you look past the religious stuff and realize the similarity to MATLAB and IPython notebook, but in the shell, you might start to realize it's a powerful idea with serious applications.
I'll stop there, but there are many more examples to be gleaned. Davis' ideas are like that. They don't advertise very well, this is the opposite end of the universe from the HN marketing ethos. But if you stop trying to tear down disadvantaged people for using improper words in an idiosyncratic way, and pay attention to what's actually going on, maybe you'll be rewarded by seeing something interesting. Assuming you aren't another money-grubbing, egoistic blowhard or hanger-on to the startup scene with no real interest in computers.
TempleOS is like a window onto an alternate history of personal computing, full of things which could have been done for years but which nobody got around to doing, or which didn't even occur to anyone. I'm really glad that someone is exploring these unique ideas.
Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux
#25Kudos to Davis, I'm a big fan. Writing TempleOS: amazing. Writing TempleOS with the dog or bird background noise you hear around 5:00 in the video: more than amazing!
Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux
#26"So now we're gonna put colors in. North America should be red, like Native Americans, [...] Asia should be yellow, [...] and Africa should be black."
Please delete this comment it adds nothing to this technical discussion and is just pure troll bait.
Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux
#27Most of us will never use TempleOS, few will appreciate the skill shown here and fewer will understand Davis' religious goals. But you could also look at TempleOS as a research prototype, roughly the kind of thing which once might have been produced at Xerox PARC, and see that TempleOS implements some startlingly interesting ideas. For example, in this demo, the way that graphics are treated inline with source text a…
comparing this to IPython Notebook is a big stretch and an insult to MATLAB and IPython notebook. There's no way this would have ever come out of PARC, you're exaggerating Davis's work. Also, it's impossible to "look past the religious stuff" - it's part of, all of TempleOS.
To me this is just a crazy guy who's been tinkering with 80s technology while the rest of the world has moved on. I feel bad for him , but I just don't buy the "powerful idea with serious applications"
Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux
#28Most of us will never use TempleOS, few will appreciate the skill shown here and fewer will understand Davis' religious goals. But you could also look at TempleOS as a research prototype, roughly the kind of thing which once might have been produced at Xerox PARC, and see that TempleOS implements some startlingly interesting ideas. For example, in this demo, the way that graphics are treated inline with source text a…
I don't think anyone here is trying to tear Davis down. It's just that his writings can reflect poorly on our community as a whole to those who aren't familiar with his circumstances. In the current climate of hit-piece, shoot-first-ask-questions-never outrage journalism, for which the straw man of the out-of-touch privileged techie is a favorite punching bag, you can't be too careful.
Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux
#29Has Davis ever explained why he believes that his operating system is a holy relic, an artifact particularly close to God? And if so, which part of it is holy - the contents of the filesystem, the state of the runtime, or both?
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/gods-lonely-programmer https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8658283
The random number generator as God concept has been stuck in my head since I first read that Vice article. In games, both tabletop and computer games, the RNG plays the role of God (a mysterious power that can bring good or bad fortune and even life or death). It's interesting how that idea plays out in a schizophrenic mind.
Re: Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux
#30This is a feature I'd actually really like to have in an actual terminal. The ability to display graphics would be useful for many things.
There are several that do it, this article mentions a few and shows how to do it in xterm. http://www.stenyak.com/archives/1208/trick-of-the-day-render... Not mentioned in that article, there's also Terminology, which can display all sorts of dynamic media and things. https://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/terminology
Nice. I just plotted an image older than myself (/usr/share/doc/plotutils/tek2plot/dmerc.tek.gz)!