No different than when Google was telling me to upgrade to chrome whenever I visited their sites
Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox
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Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox
#152Too bad their shitty mail service does not play nicely at all with Firefox. Seriously, Yahoo Mail does not even allow me to attach a PDF when I'm in Firefox. There's a raft of other functionality issues which drove me to the decision to migrate 15 years worth of emails out of it.
For me it has always been about the spam filter(gmail is way better at it) ,and the fact that I didn't have to pay to read my mails in outlook with gmail.Maybe it has changed but the "forwarding" was a paid feature in yahoo mail.
Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox
#153Despite the browser wars, the newest annoyance is having to use Yahoo's search engine. I figured I would give it a few weeks and see how good it was compared to Google. Two weeks in and I'm done with it. Almost every search is useless to me. Even just doing local searches was painful. Type in pizza + your city and I got a bunch of ads and "Top 10 pizza places in (insert your city here)" and a ton of Yelp reviews. All…
> Despite the browser wars, the newest annoyance is having to use Yahoo's search engine. Have to? Changing the default search engine in Firefox is as simple as clicking on the search-box dropdown and selecting a different search engine. Two clicks.
Generally, the number of clicks isn't the issue. Its knowing which clicks to make.
Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Chrome started being annoying for me after version 36, but firefox was bad too. Recently made the switch to Opera and it has been much better than chrome or firefox. Opera is based on webkit, so it renders just like Chrome, has the same web dev features, and you can use almost all of chromes extensions in Opera. On top of that, I find Opera to take out a lot of the annoyances I've had with Chrome. Also Opera doesn't…
> it's not hindered by Google's politics. Opera is actually based on Blink, Google's fork of WebKit, so it does inherit Google's politics, and contributes to Google's monopolization of web standards.
> contributes to Google's monopolization of web standards
Make sure to let all the Opera devs working on web standards know this. It'll save them a bunch of hassle to know they're just wasting their time!
You can't advance the open web with FUD.
Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox
#155Calling a promo banner a "prompt" is a bit of an exaggeration. Also, the same "Upgrade to the new Firefox" message is also shown to Firefox versions less than the current version (34).
If this isn't a prompt, what would a prompt look like?
This would be an annoying prompt: http://spacecraftforall.com/
(hint: open in firefox)
Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Browsers aren't like Windows 98. You don't need to reformat or defragment from time to time.
Installing extensions can dramatically slow down browsers. I wonder if the lack of extensions is responsible for the quickness users experience with a fresh install.
That's my biggest reason for switching from AdBlock+ to Privoxy + https://github.com/skroll/privoxy-adblock . Same blocking rules but uses a ton less memory, since each tab isn't running all of AB+ .
Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
It depends on what you want. If you're primarily interested in speedy javascript, process isolation across tabs (so busy tabs don't lock out the UI), or debugging web apps, I think Chrome is better. Chrome in particular seems to have a much smoother JS execution profile; it may be down to GC, or something else, but Chrome generally has fewer frames dropped for any given demo. On the other hand, Firefox is way more fe…
Firefox's JS is pretty speedy too though, and it's faster than Chrome for things compiled with emscripten due to asm.js, like every Humble Mozilla Bundle game, anything made with Unity or Unreal Engine, anything using stuff like sql.js or other C libraries, etc.
Benchmarks tell me that Firefox's throughput is better at this point, and I have no reason to doubt it, but I also know from direct experience that variance in performance is far, far higher with Firefox.
I don't think I've ever run any asm.js other than demos.
PS: I just ran Octane 2.0. The SplayLatency test looks like it's designed to test what I'm talking about; I get 25k in Chrome, but only 9k in FF. http://developers.google.com/octane/benchmark#splaylatency
A bunch of people reckon it doesn't matter - see e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8519507 - but I think it does. GC pauses are very noticeable when there are realtime constraints, like animation.
Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firefox still doesn't have per process tabs(yes I know about nightlies), so it's a no go for me.
Firefox won't have a process per tab. Even in the multiprocess versions, it has one process for the UI and one for all the tabs' content. That way it doesn't take tons of RAM for overhead if you have lots of tabs, but heavy tab content can't freeze the UI. You can change the number of tab-processes in about:config under dom.ipc.processCount.
Fwiw, it's called Electrolysis: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis
Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
It depends on what you want. If you're primarily interested in speedy javascript, process isolation across tabs (so busy tabs don't lock out the UI), or debugging web apps, I think Chrome is better. Chrome in particular seems to have a much smoother JS execution profile; it may be down to GC, or something else, but Chrome generally has fewer frames dropped for any given demo. On the other hand, Firefox is way more fe…
Can you recommend any particular Firefox tree-tabs or tab panorama addons ? I don't know how I went this far without this...
Tree Style Tab:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...
I use it with Tab Mix Plus for extra tabby features, like progress bar on the tab, tracking unread tab state, lots of undo close tab slots, forcing popups to show up as tabs, etc:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus/
The tab panorama feature is built in:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups-organize-tab...
Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox
#160Seems like that has no doubt been an important part of the deal that Yahoo! and Mozilla made. It's an interesting way to get back at Google's heavy promotion of Chrome on their properties.
First thing I thought of, nice to have some counter-balance to the endless Chrome flagging by Google.
Although I'd rather have neither.