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Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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I just don't understand Yahoo's user acquisition strategy here. I updated my Firefox to latest version a week ago and it took literally less than a minute for me to set Google as default search engine. I know that if given choice between Yahoo and Google, I'll almost always use Google for 2 main reasons: Search quality and it is just that I'm accustomed to making specific search queries on Google. The thing I don't u…

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Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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agreed. the term upgrade also brings with it a connotation of being better. I am doubtful that this is this case.

I've been using Firefox again recently - I stopped when it was slower and less stable than Chrome. These days it often feels faster than Chrome.

I was using Firefox in the past few months because Chrome felt slower after the new update.

I am back to using Chrome however. It's really hard to break the habit even though I made it a conscious effort to use Firefox and have enjoyed it thoroughly.

My only gripe with Firefox would be watching youtube I see a Adobe process that takes up a lot of memory even though I force HTML5, it seems to revert to Adobe.

All in all Firefox is the Chrome browser I once loved, but now that Chrome is working back to what it was doing, I forgot about Firefox.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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I've been using Firefox again recently - I stopped when it was slower and less stable than Chrome. These days it often feels faster than Chrome.

I've been using Firefox for several months and have no regrets. On Ubuntu Chrome was doing all sorts of weird things, plus being slow. Firefox's tab groups is also a great feature.

On my Linux MINT machine, chrome keeps doing something[1] that ends up locking up my whole machine and I have to hard-reboot. It got to a point where I actually had to set up Ctrl+Alt+K to issue "pkill -9 chrome" so as soon as I see the mouse-pointer movement become non-smooth or music start to skip, I slam on those keys to kill chrome before I have to restart my whole machine. Then I just went to Firefox developer edition[2]. Is it better? I dunno, but I like its cool dark theme, my system hasn't locked up since and now I got all those cool extensions back again.

1. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2203672

2. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Developer_Editio...

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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I've been using Firefox again recently - I stopped when it was slower and less stable than Chrome. These days it often feels faster than Chrome.

Firefox still doesn't have per process tabs(yes I know about nightlies), so it's a no go for me.

It just rolled out in the last update, you have to set it yourself in the settings as far as I know but yeah its not just in nightly releases anymore

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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I just don't understand Yahoo's user acquisition strategy here. I updated my Firefox to latest version a week ago and it took literally less than a minute for me to set Google as default search engine. I know that if given choice between Yahoo and Google, I'll almost always use Google for 2 main reasons: Search quality and it is just that I'm accustomed to making specific search queries on Google. The thing I don't u…

Being the default is a huge deal. You only need to look at how many people are still on IE (8!). Plus, search quality is a very subjective matter. I have Bing on my phone for a while (mostly to avoid Google's redirect links), and I hardly notice it any more.

40,320 isn't very many people at all.

;)

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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I think this can be generalized further: I've been using $RELATIVELY_FRESH_BROWSER_INSTALL again recently. I stopped when it was slower and less stable than $BROWSER_I_HAVE_NOW_BEEN_USING_A_LONG_TIME. These days it often feels faster than $BROWSER_I_HAVE_NOW_BEEN_USING_A_LONG_TIME.

Browsers aren't like Windows 98. You don't need to reformat or defragment from time to time.

Some things do accumulate. That is in fact the point of Firefox Reset[1].

The support page lists "Extensions and themes, website-specific preferences, search engines, download history, DOM storage, security settings, download actions, plugin settings, toolbar customizations, user styles and social features will be removed."

[1]: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/reset-firefox-easily-fi...

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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I've been using Firefox again recently - I stopped when it was slower and less stable than Chrome. These days it often feels faster than Chrome.

Firefox still doesn't have per process tabs(yes I know about nightlies), so it's a no go for me.

Firefox won't have a process per tab. Even in the multiprocess versions, it has one process for the UI and one for all the tabs' content. That way it doesn't take tons of RAM for overhead if you have lots of tabs, but heavy tab content can't freeze the UI. You can change the number of tab-processes in about:config under dom.ipc.processCount.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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I've just started using duckduckgo.com. Don't have any complaints so far.

I use duckduckgo mainly, because I like what they are doing. From time to time I will get search results that aren't very relevant. In these cases, I just prepend '!google' to my search.

You can also use !sp to get Google results without Google tracking.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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I've just started using duckduckgo.com. Don't have any complaints so far.

I use duckduckgo mainly, because I like what they are doing. From time to time I will get search results that aren't very relevant. In these cases, I just prepend '!google' to my search.

Now that I've gotten used to them, I really like the !bang operators. They're incredibly convenient.

A few of the ones I abuse constantly:

!g - google

!bi - bing image

!yt - youtube

!so - stackoverflow

!w - wikipedia

!py - python docs

The exhaustive list is here: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Seems like that has no doubt been an important part of the deal that Yahoo! and Mozilla made. It's an interesting way to get back at Google's heavy promotion of Chrome on their properties.

agreed. the term upgrade also brings with it a connotation of being better. I am doubtful that this is this case.

It depends on what you want.

If you're primarily interested in speedy javascript, process isolation across tabs (so busy tabs don't lock out the UI), or debugging web apps, I think Chrome is better. Chrome in particular seems to have a much smoother JS execution profile; it may be down to GC, or something else, but Chrome generally has fewer frames dropped for any given demo.

On the other hand, Firefox is way more featureful, and has a better library of extensions. I find it very difficult to configure Chrome to be how I like it - with a bookmarks menu, zero history, and tree style tabs - whereas Firefox is much easier to shape to my purposes. The combination of tree-style tabs and tab panorama means I can - and do - keep in excess of a hundred tabs open without any difficulty in management.

So Firefox is my primary browser, and Chrome is strictly for testing and pseudonymous browsing.

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