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Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by psychometry »

barrkel wrote: post #80
bonzoT wrote: post #6

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agreed. the term upgrade also brings with it a connotation of being better. I am doubtful that this is this case.

It depends on what you want. If you're primarily interested in speedy javascript, process isolation across tabs (so busy tabs don't lock out the UI), or debugging web apps, I think Chrome is better. Chrome in particular seems to have a much smoother JS execution profile; it may be down to GC, or something else, but Chrome generally has fewer frames dropped for any given demo. On the other hand, Firefox is way more fe…

Firefox certainly has a larger library of add-ons and those add-ons are more powerful than ones available from Chrome in terms of customizing the browser. The problem is that once you install all the add-ons you're accustomed to having in Chrome, Firefox slows down enough that it's not even worth it. This was my experience using FirefoxDeveloperEdition for the past month and although I miss Firefox's far superior address bar and customizability, the huge performance hit just wasn't worth it and I switched back to Chrome.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by Noxchi »

barrkel wrote: post #80
bonzoT wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

agreed. the term upgrade also brings with it a connotation of being better. I am doubtful that this is this case.

It depends on what you want. If you're primarily interested in speedy javascript, process isolation across tabs (so busy tabs don't lock out the UI), or debugging web apps, I think Chrome is better. Chrome in particular seems to have a much smoother JS execution profile; it may be down to GC, or something else, but Chrome generally has fewer frames dropped for any given demo. On the other hand, Firefox is way more fe…

Chrome started being annoying for me after version 36, but firefox was bad too.

Recently made the switch to Opera and it has been much better than chrome or firefox. Opera is based on webkit, so it renders just like Chrome, has the same web dev features, and you can use almost all of chromes extensions in Opera. On top of that, I find Opera to take out a lot of the annoyances I've had with Chrome. Also Opera doesn't track you like Chrome probably does, and it's not hindered by Google's politics.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

barrkel wrote: post #80
bonzoT wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

agreed. the term upgrade also brings with it a connotation of being better. I am doubtful that this is this case.

It depends on what you want. If you're primarily interested in speedy javascript, process isolation across tabs (so busy tabs don't lock out the UI), or debugging web apps, I think Chrome is better. Chrome in particular seems to have a much smoother JS execution profile; it may be down to GC, or something else, but Chrome generally has fewer frames dropped for any given demo. On the other hand, Firefox is way more fe…

Firefox's JS is pretty speedy too though, and it's faster than Chrome for things compiled with emscripten due to asm.js, like every Humble Mozilla Bundle game, anything made with Unity or Unreal Engine, anything using stuff like sql.js or other C libraries, etc.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by Mikeb85 »

smtddr wrote: post #73
b-ryan wrote: post #15

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I've been using Firefox for several months and have no regrets. On Ubuntu Chrome was doing all sorts of weird things, plus being slow. Firefox's tab groups is also a great feature.

On my Linux MINT machine, chrome keeps doing something[1] that ends up locking up my whole machine and I have to hard-reboot. It got to a point where I actually had to set up Ctrl+Alt+K to issue "pkill -9 chrome" so as soon as I see the mouse-pointer movement become non-smooth or music start to skip, I slam on those keys to kill chrome before I have to restart my whole machine. Then I just went to Firefox developer e…

Hate to say it, but Linux Mint is a buggy mess.

Chrome works fine on the vast majority of Linux distros. Even if a page hangs, Chrome doesn't crash...

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by iopq »

toxican wrote: post #112
danw3 wrote: post #37

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I've just started using duckduckgo.com. Don't have any complaints so far.

I have but one, and it's that it consistently fails to find me what I need as well as Google does. I made a serious effort this week to use DuckDuckGo and made it my default search engine. I wasted so much time googling stuff I'd just DDG'd to find what I actually wanted. I love and support DDG fully, but Google still does search better, imo. Apparently !g is a thing though? I may have to give that a try so I can hav…

Yeah, I usually search with DDG and then add !g to it when I don't find anything good in my first search results

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by callahad »

Noxchi wrote: post #122
barrkel wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on what you want. If you're primarily interested in speedy javascript, process isolation across tabs (so busy tabs don't lock out the UI), or debugging web apps, I think Chrome is better. Chrome in particular seems to have a much smoother JS execution profile; it may be down to GC, or something else, but Chrome generally has fewer frames dropped for any given demo. On the other hand, Firefox is way more fe…

Chrome started being annoying for me after version 36, but firefox was bad too. Recently made the switch to Opera and it has been much better than chrome or firefox. Opera is based on webkit, so it renders just like Chrome, has the same web dev features, and you can use almost all of chromes extensions in Opera. On top of that, I find Opera to take out a lot of the annoyances I've had with Chrome. Also Opera doesn't…

> it's not hindered by Google's politics.

Opera is actually based on Blink, Google's fork of WebKit, so it does inherit Google's politics, and contributes to Google's monopolization of web standards.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by at-fates-hands »

mrisse wrote: post #70
debacle wrote: post #63

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Browsers aren't like Windows 98. You don't need to reformat or defragment from time to time.

Installing extensions can dramatically slow down browsers. I wonder if the lack of extensions is responsible for the quickness users experience with a fresh install.

Absolutely. When I first starting using FF and all the developer tools, it would grind to a halt. Now that I'm a lot more comfortable with the FF toolset, I have a minimal set of extensions and it feels much snappier.

I also use Aurora which is still super fast to me. I also develop with Chrome Canary and the stable Chrome version. Canary has times when its totally useless or when someone breaks the build and I can't use it for a week so until the next update comes out.

All in all, yes, less overhead means a snappier browser to me.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by Ar-Curunir »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #116
glaslong wrote: post #79

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Now that I've gotten used to them, I really like the !bang operators. They're incredibly convenient. A few of the ones I abuse constantly: !g - google !bi - bing image !yt - youtube !so - stackoverflow !w - wikipedia !py - python docs The exhaustive list is here: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html

I tried DDG for a while (a month, but probably a year ago now) but found I was always doing "!g ". So I just went back to using the address bar for searching and just the standard FF shortcuts (called "search engine keywords" IIRC) + a few extras I've added over the years. On Firefox I have g - google ddg - duckduckgo yt - youtube w - wikipedia etc. easy to type without the bang at the front (Google and Wikipedia are…

you can use startpage if you want Google's results with none of the privacy leakage.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by at-fates-hands »

Despite the browser wars, the newest annoyance is having to use Yahoo's search engine. I figured I would give it a few weeks and see how good it was compared to Google.

Two weeks in and I'm done with it. Almost every search is useless to me. Even just doing local searches was painful.

Type in pizza + your city and I got a bunch of ads and "Top 10 pizza places in (insert your city here)" and a ton of Yelp reviews. All I wanted was a list of pizza places near me.

I have a dozen other examples, but in a nutshell, it was just really poor at returning results I was expecting.

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