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Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

#111
Unfortunately I stopped using Firefox a few years ago, found it to be more of a distraction than a benefit.

But it's good that Yahoo is doing something to compete with Google, if they don't than who will? I'm personally a big fan of Google, they lead the way of change.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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post #37

Good for Mozilla. They need some promotion from websites. I've heard that Google use to do this for them but I guess that changed once they made their own browser. I'm still not going to use Yahoo search as it's really just Google search only not as good. Hopefully one day there will be a challenge to Google.

I've just started using duckduckgo.com. Don't have any complaints so far.

I have but one, and it's that it consistently fails to find me what I need as well as Google does. I made a serious effort this week to use DuckDuckGo and made it my default search engine. I wasted so much time googling stuff I'd just DDG'd to find what I actually wanted. I love and support DDG fully, but Google still does search better, imo.

Apparently !g is a thing though? I may have to give that a try so I can have the benefits of DDG, but the results of google.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

#113

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I use duckduckgo mainly, because I like what they are doing. From time to time I will get search results that aren't very relevant. In these cases, I just prepend '!google' to my search.

Now that I've gotten used to them, I really like the !bang operators. They're incredibly convenient. A few of the ones I abuse constantly: !g - google !bi - bing image !yt - youtube !so - stackoverflow !w - wikipedia !py - python docs The exhaustive list is here: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html

Why are bangs good? Why not just go to the site?

Also Stackoverflow's search and many other site searches are totally rubbish. Not a bit, but totally rubbish. Here's an example:

"!so c# read file" => this delivers useless results, the top result being "Reading Excel files from C#"

Compare that to "stackoverflow c# read file" on google, which delivers what you actually want, with the question "Reading From a Text File in C#".

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

#114

I just don't understand Yahoo's user acquisition strategy here. I updated my Firefox to latest version a week ago and it took literally less than a minute for me to set Google as default search engine. I know that if given choice between Yahoo and Google, I'll almost always use Google for 2 main reasons: Search quality and it is just that I'm accustomed to making specific search queries on Google. The thing I don't u…

Being the default is a huge deal. You only need to look at how many people are still on IE (8!). Plus, search quality is a very subjective matter. I have Bing on my phone for a while (mostly to avoid Google's redirect links), and I hardly notice it any more.

The ie8 thing is because it is the last version you can run on the massive number of pirated XP copies out there.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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post #2

Seems like that has no doubt been an important part of the deal that Yahoo! and Mozilla made. It's an interesting way to get back at Google's heavy promotion of Chrome on their properties.

agreed. the term upgrade also brings with it a connotation of being better. I am doubtful that this is this case.

When in doubt people should interpret it in a way that is convenient to them and not others. It makes total sense for Yahoo! to promote Firefox as a "Better browser". Google in past too has tried similar tricks.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use duckduckgo mainly, because I like what they are doing. From time to time I will get search results that aren't very relevant. In these cases, I just prepend '!google' to my search.

Now that I've gotten used to them, I really like the !bang operators. They're incredibly convenient. A few of the ones I abuse constantly: !g - google !bi - bing image !yt - youtube !so - stackoverflow !w - wikipedia !py - python docs The exhaustive list is here: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html

I tried DDG for a while (a month, but probably a year ago now) but found I was always doing "!g ". So I just went back to using the address bar for searching and just the standard FF shortcuts (called "search engine keywords" IIRC) + a few extras I've added over the years.

On Firefox I have

g - google

ddg - duckduckgo

yt - youtube

w - wikipedia

etc.

easy to type without the bang at the front (Google and Wikipedia are defaults, not sure what the other ones are). I gather on DDG you can use them at the end so you need the ! as a delimiter.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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post #2

Seems like that has no doubt been an important part of the deal that Yahoo! and Mozilla made. It's an interesting way to get back at Google's heavy promotion of Chrome on their properties.

agreed. the term upgrade also brings with it a connotation of being better. I am doubtful that this is this case.

For some heavy users, including me, Firefox has always felt better.

I've honestly tried to switch to both Opera and Chrome but once you are spoiled with real extensions there is always one of them holding you back. ATM the most obvious one is treestyletabs.

This is not to say that there is not a lot of people to whom Chrome is better. Just that you can rest assured that Firefox is better as well, -for some of us, just like Safari is the best browser for some people and others want Opera. (Same goes for Linux, Mac and Windows and I love being able to chose one that I like.)

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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post #80
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

agreed. the term upgrade also brings with it a connotation of being better. I am doubtful that this is this case.

It depends on what you want. If you're primarily interested in speedy javascript, process isolation across tabs (so busy tabs don't lock out the UI), or debugging web apps, I think Chrome is better. Chrome in particular seems to have a much smoother JS execution profile; it may be down to GC, or something else, but Chrome generally has fewer frames dropped for any given demo. On the other hand, Firefox is way more fe…

Yeah, they both have different benefits.

Chrome seems faster for most high performance sites I visit and crashes less often. However, I prefer to have less of my browsing data recorded and so primarily use firefox and duckduckgo.

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