Is there a good site to see how much one "should" be making?
www.glassdoor.com may help.
Tell: Got 50% bump for faking a counter offer
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Re: Tell: Got 50% bump for faking a counter offer
#32I am going to go out on a limb and say that fake anything is a bullshit way of doing business. In a small way, you probably have made our corner of the world a worse place to be in. Why not just ask for 260K? To lie in order to get it may seem like the only way to guarantee a realization of what you are worth, but this fosters a business climate that you ultimately may not want to live in. Companies may feel the need…
Re: Tell: Got 50% bump for faking a counter offer
#33During my first internship at a a start up that was about to IPO, I was so grateful, I would have worked for free. After a semester and the IPO, I was offered a different internship that I thought would provide more learning value. I told my mentor/manager, and he pulled me aside.
He said, "name a pay hike, and we can easily get it for you." I remember being so surprised because I was replaceable, and my work could easily be shifted to a new intern. Also, I remember the chance they took at taking an unproven undergrad on a rocketship of a startup. He told me that I didn't understand how businesses work yet, and I would soon learn that you are worth the value you provide.
Since then, I focus on knowing that at any company, I will provide incremental value, not just the status quo, but against competitive peers. And if a company offers more than I believe I can provide at a given time, I'll work my ass off to get to point where I can provide commiserate value.
Re: Tell: Got 50% bump for faking a counter offer
#34I have a question: How do people even have real counteroffers? Do you apply for multiple jobs and two or more happen to make you an offer? How do you manage to get the times to line up so perfectly?
So I end up having multiple phone interviews and then on-site interviews until I get one or more good offers. Just recently I got 3 really good offers in the span of two weeks and took the time to chose the one I really wanted to accept. I told each company I was interviewing at other places too and wanted some time to think.
Re: Tell: Got 50% bump for faking a counter offer
#35I am going to go out on a limb and say that fake anything is a bullshit way of doing business. In a small way, you probably have made our corner of the world a worse place to be in. Why not just ask for 260K? To lie in order to get it may seem like the only way to guarantee a realization of what you are worth, but this fosters a business climate that you ultimately may not want to live in. Companies may feel the need…
Re: Tell: Got 50% bump for faking a counter offer
#36Any company that will give you a higher title/pay based that's not based on skill is not doing job leveling properly. Going from (for example) "Jr. SDE" to "Sr. SDE" just because of a counter-offer/negotiation? No way. I'd be worried who else at the company is employed at a higher level than they should be...
Re: Tell: Got 50% bump for faking a counter offer
#37Re: Tell: Got 50% bump for faking a counter offer
#38We were wondering about that. Now several of us have stumbled across this item. So, report to HR tomorrow morning for your exit interview.
Re: Tell: Got 50% bump for faking a counter offer
#39I am going to go out on a limb and say that fake anything is a bullshit way of doing business. In a small way, you probably have made our corner of the world a worse place to be in. Why not just ask for 260K? To lie in order to get it may seem like the only way to guarantee a realization of what you are worth, but this fosters a business climate that you ultimately may not want to live in. Companies may feel the need…
However, has asking for a 50% raise in the same company ever worked? Can you imagine a scenario where it would work? Maybe I am lacking in imagination.
The reality is that in our current business climate, various morally repugnant actions take place all the time. The examples you listed of dishonest climates, you keep getting a raw deal. Do you just take the short end of the stick to maintain the moral high ground?
Re: Tell: Got 50% bump for faking a counter offer
#40We were wondering about that. Now several of us have stumbled across this item. So, report to HR tomorrow morning for your exit interview.