Earlier quoted context omitted.
It helped a little but still crashes for me. I have the same issues with VMWare latest version.
Does suspending the VM help you?
I have to quit VMWare Fusion or run the risk of spontaneous reboots while it's asleep.
OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review
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Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review
#212None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…
I started experiencing GPU panics on rMBP in the past week as well, I guess NVidia or related circuits have some issues. I switched it off using gfxcardstatus and now it's stable running on Intel HD only. Try to do the same - if it stops crashing, your discrete GPU might be damaged.
Me too. I suspect Chrome to be involved, if only because they had this problem back in 2012 as well, around the time the rMBP came out.
Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review
#213What's missing here for me is some kind of performance evaluation. If I upgrade my 2011 MBA from Mavericks to Yosemite, should I expect any change in performance, for better or worse? Did the power management change in any significant way? Apple's mobile OSs have a way of obsoleting older hardware. I'm curious to know if their desktop OSs are trending that way as well, or if they're making performance gains instead.
Without quantitative metrics, the responsiveness is just way better than Mavericks. With Mavericks I just felt like I was waiting for it all the time, even on a maxed out laptop with SSD.
With Yosemite, even my 3 year old iMac is doing way better.
Safari has always been slow for me until this release.
The trade off is that I really hate the way Yosemite looks but I can live with the tradeoff.
Note: all my machines have 12 GB or 16GB of ram
Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review
#214None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…
I installed it on my iMac 27" from 2009. It does not boot now and goes into a panic. I haven't had much time to mess with it but there are no other partitions and it just does not load. Its also weird because I have no media now. I have the discs it came with somewhere but that will also be Lion 10.7? Or possibly Snow Leopard. The re-install is going to be a bitch for me. UGH!
If you have a friend with a Mac they ought to be able to make you a bootable USB stick which you can use to install the OS - there are instructions online for Mavericks & I's guess that you can do the same thing with Yosemite.
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
FWIW, I have rarely if ever seen OS X crash. I'm unsure what that would even look like. Are we talking about kernel panics? A single built-in app crashing while you using it? Every app suddenly closing?
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT200553
So a kernel panic. Do people seriously see those often? I could count on one hand the number of times Mavericks panicked.
Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review
#216None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…
I have a mid-2012 rMBP. I had terrible crashing problems - twice a day. Worse than any PC I ever had. I had to take it in. And pay $550. Even though it's clearly a common problem, if not a design problem, something similar. Go check out the big apple support log on the problem. I lost two weeks of productivity, because they failed to fix it the first time (it got worse). If you have GPU panics, and you don't get your…
you probably put bad memory in it. That's the usual reason. You need to read the specs carefully when buying cheap RAM
Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review
#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've had serious performance issues with Yosemite. For one, dragging around windows became extremely janky; this appears to be caused by the transparency (and the limitations of my first-generation Retina MBP), as the option to disable it fixes the jank. For another, opening a new tab in Safari started lagging about a full second before I could start typing in the address bar, which is a ridiculous amount of time com…
I'd love to try and get to the bottom of the Safari performance issues you're seeing. My email address is in my profile, please drop me a line if you wouldn't mind.
Okay.
Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review
#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've had serious performance issues with Yosemite. For one, dragging around windows became extremely janky; this appears to be caused by the transparency (and the limitations of my first-generation Retina MBP), as the option to disable it fixes the jank. For another, opening a new tab in Safari started lagging about a full second before I could start typing in the address bar, which is a ridiculous amount of time com…
Did you just update last night? I was getting janky/bad performance and a lot of glitches immediately after updating, but it smoothed out (presumably due to Spotlight indexing).
My post was based mainly on experience throughout the public betas, including the last beta which is supposed to be almost identical to the final release.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been using Yosemite since the early betas and it's been great for me. I don't use Photoshop, and I can certainly believe that Adobe might be doing nasty things, but all the apps I do use have been fine. > really long pauses anytime I try to save a simple document for the first time Is that actually what's happening, or is it a really long pause when trying to show the open/save dialog? I have a couple of NAS vol…
I've seen this behaviour, too. Could it be worse in Yosemite if you have iCloud Drive enabled? Of course, Apple ought to listen to their own advice of "never do I/O on the main thread" but then they don't bother with sandboxing their own App Store apps, either.
I haven't tried iCloud Drive, though that should not be related as, assuming it works anything like iDisk did, it would keep the drive local and sync changes back and forth, rather than doing direct network loading/saving.
As for I/O, last time I checked, the Recent Documents list is actually being loaded on a background thread, but the main thread is where the UI for it has to be populated. Normally the list would be loaded before the main thread goes to access it, but when the load is blocked by e.g. my NAS waking up, the main thread ends up waiting on a semaphore.
It is rather unfortunate, since nothing I'm doing actually needs to see the recent documents list. And if you're going to say that the main thread should be able to simply indicate that it's still loading, and refresh the list when the load finishes, then I completely agree. But I would not be surprised to find that the relevant code here is many years old, possibly written in C, with no maintainers, and not having been touched in those many years, so there's probably little chance of it being fixed :/
Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review
#220None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…
Doubt you're going to see much about crashing since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes.
> since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes.
Stop presuming, get facts. OSX Mavericks is known for its crashing problems.
Example: http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/25/apples-new-os-x-mavericks-...