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OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by eridius »

prawn wrote: post #63
smutticus wrote: post #6

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

I have been using the Yosemite beta and it has been pretty horrible. Constant visual glitches in Photoshop CS6, crashes with display glitches in Sublime Text and really long pauses anytime I try to save a simple document for the first time. e.g., save a new 100KB JPG in Photoshop? 1 min or more. Save a 100MB+ PSD that's already been saved? Instant. Would've happily avoided the beta but the only way to screen record d…

I've been using Yosemite since the early betas and it's been great for me. I don't use Photoshop, and I can certainly believe that Adobe might be doing nasty things, but all the apps I do use have been fine.

> really long pauses anytime I try to save a simple document for the first time

Is that actually what's happening, or is it a really long pause when trying to show the open/save dialog? I have a couple of NAS volumes mounted, and if I run an app with a Recent Documents entry that lives on one of the volumes, and the NAS is asleep, then the app will often pause when trying to populate the Recent Documents list. This normally happens during open/save. Previous versions of OS X did it too, though I feel like Yosemite might trigger it a bit more often for some reason.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by zippergz »

gcao wrote: post #29
pbreit wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doubt you're going to see much about crashing since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes.

Mine crashes a lot. Usually after I send it to sleep when I go home. Next time when I wake it up, it starts up from crashed state. It might have something to do with some app I installed but I didn't spend time to figure that out yet.

I have that on one of my machines but not the other. This is the only situation I remember either of them crashing in, though.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by locomoco »

nkurz wrote: post #130
locomoco wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but it's not the same as turning the display off. The GPU is still outputting signal to the Macbook Pro screen.

Wow, I hadn't considered that. It might explain why I get terrible battery life when playing movies on a TV over HDMI with the screen "turned off" by dimming it down to zero. Thanks for the hint.

Along with the battery suck, it also generates more heat as the GPU has to output 2 signals.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by gurkendoktor »

subdane wrote: post #67
prawn wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been using the Yosemite beta and it has been pretty horrible. Constant visual glitches in Photoshop CS6, crashes with display glitches in Sublime Text and really long pauses anytime I try to save a simple document for the first time. e.g., save a new 100KB JPG in Photoshop? 1 min or more. Save a 100MB+ PSD that's already been saved? Instant. Would've happily avoided the beta but the only way to screen record d…

iOS8 has made my 4S nearly unusable. Wish I had waited to install it.

At least iOS 8 has fixed a few critical security issues (which is doubly important if you use 2FA anywhere, or iCloud Keychain Sync). 10.9 will still receive a few years worth of security fixes.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by senorgusto »

dutchbrit wrote: post #85

I really don't like the new design. The dock bar looks weird to name one thing, also the new buttons, bars and the window design is just ugly and plain (it feels like a Linux flavour trying to look like OS X designed by someone's neighbour's kid) - don't let me even mention the folder icons. Photoshop stalled once but that's the only quirck I've had in the past 2 weeks of using the beta so that's not too bad. Design…

I feel the exact same way about iOS 7 growing on me but Yosemite not. This is the first Apple upgrade for a while that I'm going to hold off on...

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by EpicEng »

pbreit wrote: post #9
smutticus wrote: post #6

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

Doubt you're going to see much about crashing since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes.

Lucky you. I've owned two, they both crashed, far more often than a top-tier OS should. It usually happened when playing video, and it was usually the GPU. That said, my Air has not crashed once since I purchased it last December.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by newbeginnings9 »

smutticus wrote: post #6

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

u r so hi tech

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by pmjordan »

eridius wrote: post #131
prawn wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been using the Yosemite beta and it has been pretty horrible. Constant visual glitches in Photoshop CS6, crashes with display glitches in Sublime Text and really long pauses anytime I try to save a simple document for the first time. e.g., save a new 100KB JPG in Photoshop? 1 min or more. Save a 100MB+ PSD that's already been saved? Instant. Would've happily avoided the beta but the only way to screen record d…

I've been using Yosemite since the early betas and it's been great for me. I don't use Photoshop, and I can certainly believe that Adobe might be doing nasty things, but all the apps I do use have been fine. > really long pauses anytime I try to save a simple document for the first time Is that actually what's happening, or is it a really long pause when trying to show the open/save dialog? I have a couple of NAS vol…

I've seen this behaviour, too. Could it be worse in Yosemite if you have iCloud Drive enabled? Of course, Apple ought to listen to their own advice of "never do I/O on the main thread" but then they don't bother with sandboxing their own App Store apps, either.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by nrinaudo »

kissickas wrote: post #41
nrinaudo wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had this problem, went to the genius bar and was quickly offered to replace the defective component for free in under a week, if I remember correctly. It's still much too long to go without a computer, but it's worth it when you realise you've been coding for three hours and haven't lost a single line of code to a crash. That being said, before I got the part replaced, upgrading to... was it snow leopard? the lates…

Thanks for the anecdotal evidence. Were you covered by Apple Care or just got lucky?

A little bit of both: my warrantee had long expired, but there was an extension for this very specific issue, since I believe it affects 100% of macbook pros from that series.

I've looked into this a bit more and it looks like my comment is entirely unhelpful: mine is a mid-2010 MBP, so while our issues look similar, they probably are not. Sorry about that, I should have checked before.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by cake »

mmastrac wrote: post #45
dopamean wrote: post #44

The upgrade to Mavericks totally borked my Displaylink adapter that I use to plug an extra monitor in. After some updates its finally stable but still not great. I'm afraid to upgrade again because who knows what will happen.

Was it the Displaylink Dual-DVI adapter? Ugh, that was broken for quite a few versions for 2011ish-era devices as soon as Mavericks came out. It took them a few versions to actually fix that up, almost as if they hadn't noticed it was broken. I'm tempted to try a test install separate from my regular install after getting burned on that last time.

I have a DisplayportDVI adapter and that thing never works as intended.

Sometimes it won't detect the screen, so I have to unplug and plug it back again. If the screen is off the Macbook thinks there's still a second screen...

They really botched that thing.

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