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Post by Crito »

comrh wrote: post #129
Crito wrote: post #110

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> I can't imagine attending an event where people could carry concealed weapon Have you ever been to America? If so, you have almost certainly already attended countless events where somebody in the audience had a gun. The staggering majority of the time there are no incidents, so it is easy to overlook this.

Really, really depends on the state. If from a May-Issue state there is a good chance the only interaction a person gets with someone carrying is the police.

I'd say that even in NYC, you're probably around (illegal, in that case) concealed weapons more often than you would suspect. In most of the country, you will frequently be around many (legally) concealed weapons though.

The trick is concealed. The general public, even in cities in red-states, typically only sees guns when a policeman is carrying it. Open carry protesters provide exceptions to this, but most people are not particularly interested in open carry.

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Post by hashberry »

bvanslyke wrote: post #127
hashberry wrote: post #74

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It better be. She raised $158K on Kickstarter to make these YouTube videos. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-wom...

In case you (the reader of this comment) are interested in what kind of person it is that races to articles to post this tidbit, try taking a dive through his comment history. > hashberry 235 days ago | link | parent | on: My children’s book on technology raised 100k withi... > The presentation and video was amazing. I immediately fell in love with her. She smiles non-stop. She jumps around with giddy excitement in a…

Shaming male hetrosexuality is Feminism 101. Yes, I am attracted to young, maternal, intelligent women who like to smile.

Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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Post by UnoriginalGuy »

bitJericho wrote: post #116
UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #106

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Then it should be easy to refute, right? Here's the scenario: People are screaming, someone is shooting, you don't know who. You see bodies on the ground, they're bleeding. Then you see someone come around the corner holding a handgun out, they are dressed like a student, you draw your concealed carry and out of fear for your own life you shoot that person. Turns out both you and them are concealed carry. Opps. Expla…

It's fear mongering because it hasn't happened and is incredibly unlikely to happen. At least untog up there provided some sort of actual reporting of similar events, even though it's innocent bystanders getting caught up in the shrapnel from the heros trying to protect themselves from getting shot. That's not this hollywood blockbuster scenario you two have conjured up.

> It's fear mongering because it hasn't happened and is incredibly unlikely to happen.

Because, why? Again I see no refutement. Just empty words.

Two concealed carry owners shoot each other[0]. Concealed carry almost shoots a police officer[1]. Concealed carry shoots the VICTIM in a robbery[2] during a cross-fire with the robbers.

[0] http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/19/1239955/-Two-concea... [1] http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-crestwood-concealed-ca... [2] http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2012/05/man-arrested-in-fami...

Re: Feminist video-games talk pulled after massacre threat

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Post by ben0x539 »

imchillyb wrote: post #72
ben0x539 wrote: post #26

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It's easy for people who aren't being targeted for harassment to ignore it, but I think we owe it to those who are to not ignore it.

> I think we owe it to those who are (being targeted for harassment) to not ignore it. - ben0x539 No. No we don't. The best thing you can do, as an individual, is not give either side of the debate any further attention or credibility. Witch hunts are common in any activist crowd. This issue is no different than hundreds of other agenda driven issues. If you truly want this type of thing to go away, stop talking abou…

The "side" of this "debate" that is receiving death threats is very deserving of attention (to the extent they want it) and sympathy, and has no lack of credibility.

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Post by drivingmenuts »

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #115
Xeoncross wrote: post #102

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Um, more guns is a good thing - that is why we call the police. I think you mean more "skilled"/"trained" gun operators.

I prefer the model where nobody has guns, including the police. Maybe specialist armed units, but your average street cop shouldn't have a firearm: they aren't well trained enough. It is a proven model. It works. Plus even if you argue "people can just use knives instead," it still stops mass shootings.

That would require a massive cultural change. It works in the UK, because the UK doesn't have a history of gun ownership the way the US does.

The Wild West of the UK is what, Wales? Scotland? Not a lot of guns to be found there, historically speaking.

The US invented selling guns to civilians.

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Post by comrh »

scarmig wrote: post #128
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #108

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I'm guessing you don't know many folks who carry? Off-duty police, former military, parents and plumbers. Not a lot to fear. In fact lots of cases its been shown to be safer to have such folks around.

Neither a gun nut or gun grabber, but do you have a cite for that?

You're going to be hard pressed to get a real citation for the safety thing. The issue is just so complex you can't have a 1 to 1 relationship between concealed carry and crime rates. Some states release CCP numbers though and they're plenty of people doing it.

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Post by smackfu »

hashberry wrote: post #74
mturmon wrote: post #13

Her video series, which you can see on YouTube, is actually quite good and well-researched. You might disagree with her conclusions (I agree with them) but even if you disagree, you have to admit she's done a lot of legwork.

It better be. She raised $158K on Kickstarter to make these YouTube videos. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-wom...

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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Post by ben0x539 »

Rubix117 wrote: post #138
vlunkr wrote: post #87

I don't understand these people that hate her so much, even if you disagree with her. All she has done is create a series of videos pointing out what she thinks is wrong with the gaming industry and she gets death threats. Why is no one allowed to be critical of video games? If anything, they are just proving her point by responding with violence.

Cause the death threats are so real...

A death threat doesn't become less real by not being followed through it, otherwise it'd be called murder, not death threat.

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Post by otikik »

mason240 wrote: post #100
archagon wrote: post #50

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Give the Isometric podcast #18 a listen ( http://5by5.tv/isometric/18 ). It might change your mind. Also this: http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point Zoe Quinn tweeted today: "couldn't you just fucking not play my games . Fucking boycott me, don't work with me, just leave my dad alone". She got a dead squirrel in her mailbox a few days ago. Remember: she made a free indie game about depression and had a…

No, that is not all she did. She traded sexual favors for favorable game reviews for with multiple people. I don't want my daughter to grow up have to compete with people who use their bodies as something trade business favors for. Frankly is is disgusting that anyone would be supporting this kind of behavior.

> No, that is not all she did. She traded sexual favors for favorable game reviews for with multiple people.

Nope. Get your facts straight. A disgrunted ex is the only source of those accusations. The guy who (very much allegedly) had sex with her did not cover her game.

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Post by vlunkr »

hashberry wrote: post #74
mturmon wrote: post #13

Her video series, which you can see on YouTube, is actually quite good and well-researched. You might disagree with her conclusions (I agree with them) but even if you disagree, you have to admit she's done a lot of legwork.

It better be. She raised $158K on Kickstarter to make these YouTube videos. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-wom...

I keep seeing her getting criticized for this and I don't get it. She didn't ask for that much, it just happened.
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